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    Not sure how it is on other servers, but in PF, Healer has by-and-large the slowest filled role.

    I think a major part being there’s more DPS people want to try and there’s no quick healer to level. Moreso, I think a lot of folks are finding healer a slog to playthrough making it a detriment for endgame.

    If it’s this bad for EX, will it be much more worse when Savage comes out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToodlesElNoodles View Post
    Not sure how it is on other servers, but in PF, Healer has by-and-large the slowest filled role.

    I think a major part being there’s more DPS people want to try and there’s no quick healer to level. Moreso, I think a lot of folks are finding healer a slog to playthrough making it a detriment for endgame.

    If it’s this bad for EX, will it be much more worse when Savage comes out?



    Taken from PF right now, looks like tanks/heals even
    Duty finder is tanks in need all day every day
    Shame I was hoping the healer strike would let me get more healer in need dungeon bonuses but oh well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elun View Post



    Taken from PF right now, looks like tanks/heals even
    Duty finder is tanks in need all day every day
    Shame I was hoping the healer strike would let me get more healer in need dungeon bonuses but oh well
    AIN is meaningless as healer can only be in need explicitly when Tank isn’t in need
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    AIN is meaningless as healer can only be in need explicitly when Tank isn’t in need
    As long as one of the roles must always be 'in need' then what is meaningless about it? If tanks aren't in need, then it would be because the needed role is in need. But if tanks are in need, then ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elun View Post
    As long as one of the roles must always be 'in need' then what is meaningless about it? If tanks aren't in need, then it would be because the needed role is in need. But if tanks are in need, then ...
    It’s because it doesn’t adequately reflect the actual need of the roulettes because it checks the roles sequentially and stops when it reaches an “in need”

    For example let’s say there is 30 sets of 2 DPS in the levelling roulette of those 30 “parties” all 30 are looking for a healer, but one of those 30 parties is also looking for a tank. In this case AIN will show tanks as in need as there is one party that needs a tank even though healer is far more in need and has queues that will pop faster

    It’s not about “well someone has to be listed in need when nobody is in need” it’s the fact that the system won’t even check healers to see if they are “more” in need when it determines that tanks are in need
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elun View Post



    Taken from PF right now, looks like tanks/heals even
    Duty finder is tanks in need all day every day
    Shame I was hoping the healer strike would let me get more healer in need dungeon bonuses but oh well
    I'm glad I do not have this problem... between maining Astrologian and having friends/FC members who have been trying to figure it out since day one, it's been business as usual in terms of queues for us. Was also half expecting to be bullied for walking that imaginary picket line - even though I want nothing to do with it. Nor do most people I know who main healers.

    For those who quit the game for this whole movement, hope you're doing anything else - playing that backlog. Touching grass. Getting to the heart of whatever matters y'all put off all this time.

    o7
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    Last edited by MaikoRaines; 07-11-2024 at 06:10 PM. Reason: Brain rot

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    Tanks are losing popularity due to them all starting to feel really samey and the fact DRK and PLD feel really bad to play.
    Still theres an entire tank forum to talk about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    Tanks are losing popularity due to them all starting to feel really samey and the fact DRK and PLD feel really bad to play.
    Still theres an entire tank forum to talk about that.
    PLD was my go to job when I wasn't on a healer. Lost all interest in playing when they "reworked" it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venarius View Post
    PLD was my go to job when I wasn't on a healer. Lost all interest in playing when they "reworked" it.
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    I get it though, it's just the toxic raiders complaining like they always do about everything. That's all I see here.
    Ruin the game for everyone just so they can fine tune it to high end content (which any developer worth their salt would never do).
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