#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Wildheaven182]

Exactly, and that was my point. The clear tell for me that Square received more feedback that tanks were too squishy was them giving further damage migitation to tanks, which was the exact opposite of what was asked in this thread (removing tank damage migitation.) I do not believe that tanks are too squishy but nor do I believe they need their tank migitation removed. But I also know that I don't have a full picture on tanks since my highest tank is a 84 Gunblade. Hence why I refrained from giving a personal opinion on current tank migitation and focused more on my theory behind Square's motive. Ultimately my personal beliefs don't matter to moving the needle with Square if it's not the viewpoint of the majority of players providing feedback.

That's also what I wanted to get across to the previous poster, was the perceived notion of a grandiose number due to this thread having over 500 pages. Had the feedback been as high as some think, Square would not have went the direction that they did. Besides, 540 pages means very little outside of the fact that this is a very lively conversation. It surely doesn't mean that everyone in this thread supports all of the notions the Op presented cause I definitely don't and I'm adding to the page count. A better way to judge is to see how many people liked the Ops original post. That is a much better guage in determining who supports the message. Right now it sits at 368 people. This may seem like a lot, but according to mmo population, the daily player count for FFXIV as a whole sits at around 257,000 people.

https://mmo-population.com/r/ffxiv

That means at this moment, around 0.001% of the current playing demographic shares the same ideology as the OP. So the poster claiming 500 pages as evident of a large gaming bloc of FFXIV fell victim to being in an echo chamber and assuming this viewpoint had a much larger presence then what it actually is. And the key highlight of that is Square moving in the exact opposite direction that was asked via the Op (well specifically referring to the granting of additional tank migitation by Square vs the requested removal of tank migitation posted by the Op)

Alright then, some proportionally small vocality about problems with healers is meaningless but 0 vocality about tanks being too squishy must mean tanks are too squishy.

By that logic, everyone loved 1.0 and that's why squex made 1.0 the way they did. Sounds like squex worshipper jargon where everything the devs do is good and they are incapable of doing things that are unpopular.

[Kira619]

Alright then, some proportionally small vocality about problems with healers is meaningless but 0 vocality about tanks being too squishy must mean tanks are too squishy.

By that logic, everyone loved 1.0 and that's why squex made 1.0 the way they did. Sounds like squex worshipper jargon where everything the devs do is good and they are incapable of doing things that are unpopular.

Ah once again the classic putting words in people mouth. Never had I said the viewpoint people have in here is meaningless. I said I believe they don't represent the majority of feedback presented to Square. I have already indicated the fallacy of making the statement that there is 0 vocality about tanks being too squishy so I don't need to go over it again.

[CrimsonGunner]

it really is hilarious to me that yoshi p claiming they hear player's feedbacks and on the same breath the dev teams pulls the worst job designs upgrades in gaming history when it comes to healer role.
i cant really call them upgrades or expansion worthy changes... did they even tested them? or done a QA?
my guess is nope...

[Rolder50]

it really is hilarious to me that yoshi p claiming they hear player's feedbacks and on the same breath the dev teams pulls the worst job designs upgrades in gaming history when it comes to healer role.
i cant really call them upgrades or expansion worthy changes... did they even tested them? or done a QA?
my guess is nope...

The same could be said for the DPS jobs as well. Like all Summoner gets is a Bahamut skin lmao

[CrimsonGunner]

The same could be said for the DPS jobs as well. Like all Summoner gets is a Bahamut skin lmao

wait wait thats not fair, they also got a brand new shiny .....healing button to go with their shiny bahamut.

[S4M4EL]

wait wait thats not fair, they also got a brand new shiny .....healing button to go with their shiny bahamut.

I can't with the glamazon Bahamut and his tantalizing definitely much needed healing ability

Ty devs

[Turtledeluxe]

Is it a healer strike thread or a healer strike critic face planting thread...

[AutumnsHollow]

I saw that the reason they don’t allow sage dots to stack is because of JP feedback. Reasons like too much of a hassle to keep up, range is too narrow (hello fluid aura from ARR and heavensward), feels clunky, etc. That they prefer brain dead dps rotation so they can focus on healing.

It’s extremely disappointing. But also what healing do they want to focus on?? In current endwalker in top I don’t even use gcd healing till P3 and that’s while the boss is untargetable mind you. And that’s in an ultimate fight. I barely gcd healed anything in top. The only content that surprisingly forced me to gcd heal was criterion savage. No not savage raids and not ultimate.

So again what healing do they want to focus on? Maybe JP healers are just very inefficient. Or at least the vocal ones on their forums. Maybe even dare I say it, bad? Otherwise I must be playing a different game where healing needs to be focused on.

Hopefully this gets fixed in dawntrail otherwise yay….another two years of spamming the same button. What engaging gameplay! But I sincerely doubt it. They’d have to fix encounter design to actually make us gcd heal and I don’t see them doing that.

We have too many ogcd heals in our kits and frankly they’re too strong. I don’t see anything in this game requiring seraphisim from scholar to heal through. That skill is so broken. The only time that would actually get used to its full effect is if your cohealer is dead, and there’s an almaghest mechanic happening that doesn’t require a body check. But with how many body check mechanics are in the game recently I doubt even then the scholar could save the run.

The constant body checks also uniquely affect healers in a negative fashion. Healers are the fixers of the group. It stops us from having a chance to pick up the pieces to fix the problem. It cuts off a gameplay element that healers can engage in. There’s only a few instances in savage and ultimate where you can actually raise someone and still continue the fight and those windows are very tight.


But hopefully, maybe something will change in dawntrail. I sincerely doubt it though.

[Kozmakis]

It's quite obvious that the topics seen here express a very small minority of the gaming audience as a whole.

You fell in a common pitfall of making assumptions, unfortunately. The fact that people don't read/post on forums doesn't automatically mean they do not agree or feel the same way. Otherwise, what you are saying is sensible.

[Kira619]

You fell in a common pitfall of making assumptions, unfortunately. The fact that people don't read/post on forums doesn't automatically mean they do not agree or feel the same way. Otherwise, what you are saying is sensible.

Ah, there must be a misunderstanding. I'm not assuming that the only people who share these viewpoints are those that appear in this forum. That would be mathematically impossible. I'm saying that the threads seen here can't be used as a representative to indicate the audience as a whole, because they represent too small of a numerical value to reflect the majority of the audience. Hence, the topics seen here express a very small minority of the gaming audience as a whole. AKA, there is nowhere near enough traffic in this thread to state the feelings expressed here represent how the majority feel within the gaming bloc.