#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[rawker]

You know, I was talking about the healer "changes" in Dawntrail with a friend, and he was like "Man. ARR Conjurer had more of a DPS rotation at 30 than your White Mage has now."

From what I can recall:

1. Stone
2. Stone 2
3. Aero
4. Aero 2

So yeah.. even a CNJ way back in ARR had more dps spells and depth than a level 100 WHM in DT.

Edit. Not sure but i think CNJ can also make use of some THM spells up to Blizzard 2... even Thunder.

[Wildheaven182]

We? Who are we again? I'm fine over here.

I find this "movement" utterly ridiculous. Most claims hold no ground whatsoever and would only serve to over-destabilize the entire game. Even if they give 1-2 extra buttons of DPS to the healer, the novelty and the "fun" will wear off really fast and people will end up complaining about something else *cough* Sage double dot *cough* (who the F even used that).

Trash content is supposed to be exactly that, trash. Low entry, done fast, with the least friction as possible, especially when they are literally just chores.

Since we are clowning around.. let's go all in:

1. Scaled Down versions of Barbaricia EXtreme for all dungeons
2. The dungeon will have a perma min ilvl and no echo enforced, regardless of how much you die.
3. The raid wides always leave players with 15-10% HP(including tanks- no more tank privilege suckers!) followed by multi-hit TB.
4. The TB must be taken with at least 2-3 mits or after the TB, the remaining dot will be very hard if not impossible to heal.
5. The boss leaves the arena every 20s. Upon returning 3-4 mechanics will have to be executed in fast succession.

Jokes aside, see you when I see you.

I guess majority of the game is trash content and majority of the players are trash players then. Dont let a fanboy hear you say that though.

[Fawkes]

From what I can recall:

1. Stone
2. Stone 2
3. Aero
4. Aero 2

So yeah.. even a CNJ way back in ARR had more dps spells and depth than a level 100 WHM in DT.

Fluid Aura

[rawker]

Fluid Aura

What's that? Lols

[CrimsonGunner]

That's certainly one way to interpret things. A completely batshite crazy way, but a way.

I don't really give a toss. All I'm saying is that if people are this butthurt (to use your terminology) about things, maybe they should find something else to do. Why pay just to be miserable? There's two basic reasons for it: The first is you're not actually upset, you're just looking for attention, and the second is that it hadn't (yet) occurred to you that you have a choice. The former are trolls, while the latter now have been put on notice that they do have a choice. They don't have to keep paying for the privilege to play a game they don't enjoy. No one should be doing that, period, regardless of what the game is. There are literally millions of other games out there to choose from, surely there's at least one that you will enjoy playing. This isn't the 80s and early 90s when you might get 1 new game every month so you had to play the crap out of each one. Just about everyone probably has a backlog of games that would take longer to complete than they will be alive. No point wasting any time on a game you don't derive enjoyment from. Find something else to play, or read a book, watch something on TV, go out and see a movie, go bowling, whatever makes you happy. If you don't enjoy hitting yourself in the head with a ball-peen hammer... STOP DOING IT. How difficult is that?

i agree your way of interpret things is batshite crazy and as expected of you it went over your head and reach jupiter by your logic and understanding.

well tough for you dude if you don't get that explanations and also how difficult is go do something that is fun for you?

well it simple, the strikers did said they leaving healers to have fun (in other roles and jobs) but i guess that point never crossed your mind.

i guess its cause you just view two options be your healer(heal slave) or perish from the game but no one told you there is C the other option where they don't leave the game, give feedback why they are leaving their loved roles and then go play a different role in the same game that will be fun for them.

[Isala]

From what I can recall:

1. Stone
2. Stone 2
3. Aero
4. Aero 2

So yeah.. even a CNJ way back in ARR had more dps spells and depth than a level 100 WHM in DT.

Edit. Not sure but i think CNJ can also make use of some THM spells up to Blizzard 2... even Thunder.

Wiki says Thunder pre 2.1, Blizzard 2, Ruin, and even Mercy Stroke for some reason. On top of like every DPS cooldown.

https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Additional_action

So, yeah. There we have it. Amazing job design we have now, so that the literal training wheels version of White Mage had a more meaningful DPS toolkit.

[Silver-Strider]

What's that? Lols

You laugh but yeeting T9 Golems with Fluid Aura was a joy I will never be able to recreate.

[Kohashi]

So then, we should have Tanks be stripped of all their DPS abilities except for one single target and one AoE, and all their other buttons should be Mitigations and Provokes that don't deal any damage.

Thanks for the laughs, I almost choked with my own (important clarification) spit.

How to say you have no clue what this game is about without saying it, absolutely hilarious!!!!!

[Galvuu]

trolling or not, he basically got served his own cooking and he hated it XD

Their character doesn't even have a single job at level 90.
It's either someone posting on an alt to incite discord and bait people into derailing the thread, or you're talking to someone who literally didn't play EW in any capacity- not even DoL or DoH.

[Darkstride]

Wiki says Thunder pre 2.1, Blizzard 2, Ruin, and even Mercy Stroke for some reason. On top of like every DPS cooldown.

https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Additional_action

So, yeah. There we have it. Amazing job design we have now, so that the literal training wheels version of White Mage had a more meaningful DPS toolkit.

Before there were jobs in 1.0, Conjurer was the elemental caster. It had every element to cast. Thaumaturge had debuffs and light/dark themed spells. Conjurer wasn't a "healer" then. When they introduced jobs, they repurposed THM and CNJ to be the base classes for BLM and WHM and that's when they started having role and element identities. ARR had some remnants left over from 1.0, especially with cross-class abilities, that have been trimmed away over time. Throughout they expansions, it's just become more focused. I wouldn't say that in 2.0 White Mage had more useful DPS skills, even if it had more of them. They were just kind of there.

I'm not making an argument that healers shouldn't have more DPS abilities, because I would like it if they did. I'm just not sure that ARR (and/or earlier interations) is a good example.