#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Veil_Lord]

Sorry but I just need to correct this since I've played all four healers in savage on controller (including Astro!). With a couple settings, you can easily access 32 hotbar buttons on controller, and frankly with the amount of buttons each job in the game has it's a very good idea to do so.

Care to elaborate? So far the best I've found is creating different hotbar sets for like 60 and under, and 60+ dungeons, which really only gives you a few minor variations because you still need a certain core set of functions.

[Ramiee]

You know, I was talking about the healer "changes" in Dawntrail with a friend, and he was like "Man. ARR Conjurer had more of a DPS rotation at 30 than your White Mage has now." And while I can't pull that up in Google to prove it, I did find something that makes me giggle about how much people claim that current healers are good game design. Specifically this leveling Conjurer from early ARR in this thread. https://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion...t-20ish-levels

And the quote in question?



So tell me, o defenders of the slop. Why is it, in 2013, a leveling Conjurer can point out how absolutely miserable it is to play like that, yet people will literally trip over themselves to claim that it's such an enjoyable experience to be doing the exact same thing at level 80, 90, 100.

Cus JP players think healers should only heal and CBU3 saw JP healers having low playerbase then decided to rework the entire role to appeal to JP players. Most Western MMO players for this genre find this really dumb, even holy priest in 2014 had more DPS spells (also spent more time healing lol) then current XIV healers. Its why JP healers got mad over double dot with Sage, their culture believes everyone should do their Job. Its even why im super curious if tank got the same treatment if they would feel the same way or be hypocrits. But yeah cultural issues tbh JP don't like western styled mmo healers and westerners who are scared of challenge also don't like healer with DPS balance.
I will say that healers do get harrassed more than other roles in all MMOs because they're an easy out but its not like current healers in XIV don't get shit for being bad at their role.

[Wildheaven182]

And again, you're not listening, And then you double down because instead of trying to listen to what I'm actually trying to say, you like others attempt to twist the narrative because my viewpoint contradicts your own. I have already addressed this.



The point being, the traffic used here represents too miniscule a number to be a determining factor in how the gaming bloc feels. The 0.001% statement was to represent a closer correlation than page traffic but neither ratio is accurate in determining how the gaming bloc feels. Just like how it's not accurate to state your ratio was correct seeing as this thread would largely be viewed by those that contradict my opinion and support the Ops opinion.

Google reviews are a tiny portion of the people who actually eat at a restaurant. Doesnt mean they cant reflect a popular opinion or be useful to the business. Also go ahead to a 0.5 star restaurant. Sometimes the reviews can be unfair, you know. Elden ring dlc got review bombed but turned out 80% of negative reviews are in chinese complaining about easy anticheat.

We're not trying to declare how some majority feels and no one has ever said that but you. We are trying to get attention to *our* concerns with healer because we are passionate about the game and want to improve it and make it more fun.

[rawker]

You know, I was talking about the healer "changes" in Dawntrail with a friend, and he was like "Man. ARR Conjurer had more of a DPS rotation at 30 than your White Mage has now."

From what I can recall:

1. Stone
2. Stone 2
3. Aero
4. Aero 2

So yeah.. even a CNJ way back in ARR had more dps spells and depth than a level 100 WHM in DT.

Edit. Not sure but i think CNJ can also make use of some THM spells up to Blizzard 2... even Thunder.

[Wildheaven182]

We? Who are we again? I'm fine over here.

I find this "movement" utterly ridiculous. Most claims hold no ground whatsoever and would only serve to over-destabilize the entire game. Even if they give 1-2 extra buttons of DPS to the healer, the novelty and the "fun" will wear off really fast and people will end up complaining about something else *cough* Sage double dot *cough* (who the F even used that).

Trash content is supposed to be exactly that, trash. Low entry, done fast, with the least friction as possible, especially when they are literally just chores.

Since we are clowning around.. let's go all in:

1. Scaled Down versions of Barbaricia EXtreme for all dungeons
2. The dungeon will have a perma min ilvl and no echo enforced, regardless of how much you die.
3. The raid wides always leave players with 15-10% HP(including tanks- no more tank privilege suckers!) followed by multi-hit TB.
4. The TB must be taken with at least 2-3 mits or after the TB, the remaining dot will be very hard if not impossible to heal.
5. The boss leaves the arena every 20s. Upon returning 3-4 mechanics will have to be executed in fast succession.

Jokes aside, see you when I see you.

I guess majority of the game is trash content and majority of the players are trash players then. Dont let a fanboy hear you say that though.

[Fawkes]

From what I can recall:

1. Stone
2. Stone 2
3. Aero
4. Aero 2

So yeah.. even a CNJ way back in ARR had more dps spells and depth than a level 100 WHM in DT.

Fluid Aura

[rawker]

Fluid Aura

What's that? Lols

[CrimsonGunner]

That's certainly one way to interpret things. A completely batshite crazy way, but a way.

I don't really give a toss. All I'm saying is that if people are this butthurt (to use your terminology) about things, maybe they should find something else to do. Why pay just to be miserable? There's two basic reasons for it: The first is you're not actually upset, you're just looking for attention, and the second is that it hadn't (yet) occurred to you that you have a choice. The former are trolls, while the latter now have been put on notice that they do have a choice. They don't have to keep paying for the privilege to play a game they don't enjoy. No one should be doing that, period, regardless of what the game is. There are literally millions of other games out there to choose from, surely there's at least one that you will enjoy playing. This isn't the 80s and early 90s when you might get 1 new game every month so you had to play the crap out of each one. Just about everyone probably has a backlog of games that would take longer to complete than they will be alive. No point wasting any time on a game you don't derive enjoyment from. Find something else to play, or read a book, watch something on TV, go out and see a movie, go bowling, whatever makes you happy. If you don't enjoy hitting yourself in the head with a ball-peen hammer... STOP DOING IT. How difficult is that?

i agree your way of interpret things is batshite crazy and as expected of you it went over your head and reach jupiter by your logic and understanding.

well tough for you dude if you don't get that explanations and also how difficult is go do something that is fun for you?

well it simple, the strikers did said they leaving healers to have fun (in other roles and jobs) but i guess that point never crossed your mind.

i guess its cause you just view two options be your healer(heal slave) or perish from the game but no one told you there is C the other option where they don't leave the game, give feedback why they are leaving their loved roles and then go play a different role in the same game that will be fun for them.

[Isala]

From what I can recall:

1. Stone
2. Stone 2
3. Aero
4. Aero 2

So yeah.. even a CNJ way back in ARR had more dps spells and depth than a level 100 WHM in DT.

Edit. Not sure but i think CNJ can also make use of some THM spells up to Blizzard 2... even Thunder.

Wiki says Thunder pre 2.1, Blizzard 2, Ruin, and even Mercy Stroke for some reason. On top of like every DPS cooldown.

https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Additional_action

So, yeah. There we have it. Amazing job design we have now, so that the literal training wheels version of White Mage had a more meaningful DPS toolkit.

[Silver-Strider]

What's that? Lols

You laugh but yeeting T9 Golems with Fluid Aura was a joy I will never be able to recreate.