#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Fukuro]

Bless your soul. I wouldn't recommend at all.

These jobs aren't being designed by somebody who -wants- to play them.

I‘m not sure if this still holds true, but I think they have no dedicated Healer in their job design team, do they?
Just remembering back when Yoshi-P and the team showed us the new PVP mode and nobody played healer. Or when they did a „surprised pikachu face“ when people were pissed and wanted a new healer when dancer was revealed to be a DPS. They seriously don‘t care about the role and it shows

[Aidorouge]

That implies the car was going somewhere to begin with

That feel when the carbon monoxide poisoning hits...
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Not only is the difficulty curve all kinds of messed up due to the over-accessibility of the game and jobs, I have to ask why does every job have to be accessible to everyone?

This game has the advantage of allowing the player to swap to any job without starting a brand new character. So why does it matter if some jobs are a little more inaccessible to the average player? Why is it so imperative to make every job simple so that everyone can play all 19 (soon 21) jobs?

That might be the reason, job swapping is a key feature this MMO has over most other ones, so from Square-Enix's point of view, any job that's inaccessible is "doing it wrong" and needs to be adjusted to work in lock-step with the others, with regards to their respective roles anyway. I mean, I know I don't care to play things like AST/MNK/SAM/BRD/BLM because I find them hard to use (conversely, I don't like WAR/WHM because they're *too* braindead). And while I can certainly swap off, that's still 7 jobs I leave to level up last via solo content because I don't like playing as them otherwise (and before anyone asks, no I don't see the changes coming to AST/MNK/BLM making me change my mind on them).

Of course, this raises the question of why SE would make an entire role unfun to play in the case of healers... but then accessibility seems to be the priority and not necessarily entertainment value, hence how we also ended up with overtuned tanks as well because they wanted *more* people to be *less* intimidated by the role. I'm not rightly sure what the solution would be either because "just make things harder" is more likely to drive folks away from a role (if not the game), and if the bulk of jobs became complicated, you'd have a lot of people only playing the select few that aren't because the risk of failure isn't worth the supposed "reward" that others claim to find by playing a hard job.

It's a case of I don't want to step on the toes of those wanting something more dynamic and challenging, but I don't want to get filtered out of more content than I am already, and SE being unsure how to appease both because as this topic shows, you can't lower the bar too much or you render not only jobs but an entire role completely defunct, but if they make a role too intimidating and overpower it as compensation you'll just end up with people making "beat endgame with 4 White Mages" videos instead.

[Isala]

I‘m not sure if this still holds true, but I think they have no dedicated Healer in their job design team, do they?
Just remembering back when Yoshi-P and the team showed us the new PVP mode and nobody played healer. Or when they did a „surprised pikachu face“ when people were pissed and wanted a new healer when dancer was revealed to be a DPS. They seriously don‘t care about the role and it shows

The only thing I remember about the team and healers is when they had to find a new healer for testing their dungeons, because the one they were using cleared a Savage, so they needed a lower skill healer. And man, does it show that they balance content around a lower skilled player...

[MoonmoonMoonmoon]

I was planning to play dps or tank this expac, but I have all healers leveled to 90 at the moment and I'm not afraid to use them. All I can say is... y'all are in for a treat when it comes time to actually *do* something in this game. Sure you can play through the dungeons with trusts, but you're not going to clear the MSQ trials without a healer. So strike all you want, but before you commit fully to this cause, just be aware that someone will come up to fill the void left in the wake of this protest. If your intent is to prevent others from playing the game, then we will find a way to play it. If that means switching to healer, then so be it. Your strike means nothing unless you can get everyone on board and you won't while there are still folks who just want to complete the content and move on with their lives.

Play the game, or don't, but stop acting like you are actually going to make a change this way.

I'm still remembering the tank protest from P1 Savage and how long it lasted before PF just kept doing things the same way as ever.

[Mimilu]

I am just going to say this since I keep seeing it pop up.

Healers choosing not to play a class that is no longer fun to them is NOT, I REPEAT NOT selfish.

They are simply exercising the same right I as a DPS or anyone else has to enjoy the game they pay for. They do not owe me a queue pop.

Honestly, anyone who says it's selfish for a healer/ex-healer to try a different role should just shut up and play healer themselves. ꉂ (´∀｀)ʱªʱªʱª

[KageTokage]

I was planning to play dps or tank this expac, but I have all healers leveled to 90 at the moment and I'm not afraid to use them. All I can say is... y'all are in for a treat when it comes time to actually *do* something in this game. Sure you can play through the dungeons with trusts, but you're not going to clear the MSQ trials without a healer. So strike all you want, but before you commit fully to this cause, just be aware that someone will come up to fill the void left in the wake of this protest. If your intent is to prevent others from playing the game, then we will find a way to play it. If that means switching to healer, then so be it. Your strike means nothing unless you can get everyone on board and you won't while there are still folks who just want to complete the content and move on with their lives.

Play the game, or don't, but stop acting like you are actually going to make a change this way.

I'm still remembering the tank protest from P1 Savage and how long it lasted before PF just kept doing things the same way as ever.

How to spot someone who didn't bother actually reading anything in the thread before posting.

[Absurdity]

I was planning to play dps or tank this expac, but I have all healers leveled to 90 at the moment and I'm not afraid to use them. All I can say is... y'all are in for a treat when it comes time to actually *do* something in this game. Sure you can play through the dungeons with trusts, but you're not going to clear the MSQ trials without a healer. So strike all you want, but before you commit fully to this cause, just be aware that someone will come up to fill the void left in the wake of this protest. If your intent is to prevent others from playing the game, then we will find a way to play it. If that means switching to healer, then so be it. Your strike means nothing unless you can get everyone on board and you won't while there are still folks who just want to complete the content and move on with their lives.

Play the game, or don't, but stop acting like you are actually going to make a change this way.

I'm still remembering the tank protest from P1 Savage and how long it lasted before PF just kept doing things the same way as ever.

Thank you for actually just making their strike succeed. They get to play the fun DPS jobs while you now, in your attempt to "gotcha" them, have to play the terribly-designed and boring jobs.

[Loggos]

I have all healers leveled to 90 at the moment and I'm not afraid to use them.

If you have fun with them, great!

All I can say is... y'all are in for a treat

Yep, picto is certainly going be a treat for me!

just be aware that someone will come up to fill the void left in the wake of this protest.

Awesome, guess that will mean my queues will keep popping while I'll be on dps. Thanks for reassuring me!

If your intent is to prevent others from playing the game

Tell me you have no idea what the strike is about without telling me you have no idea what the strike is about.

Try a different strawman please. This one is getting old.

then we will find a way to play it.
If that means switching to healer, then so be it.

No problem at all. Have fun playing healer. The ppl in this tread will have fun playing dps and tank.

Your strike means nothing unless you can get everyone on board

Not our intention. It's about a concentrated effort at communicating that healers participating in the strike switch classes because they do not have fun anymore, after their feedback has been falling on deaf ears for years.

If nothing changes, also fine, since ppl in this thread will have a good time playing other classes and good for the people who take up healers instead of them if they have a good time. Clearly it means, FF14's healer is not designed for those who abandon the role due to not enjoying it anymore.

[Mimilu]

I was planning to play dps or tank this expac, but I have all healers leveled to 90 at the moment and I'm not afraid to use them. All I can say is... y'all are in for a treat when it comes time to actually *do* something in this game. Sure you can play through the dungeons with trusts, but you're not going to clear the MSQ trials without a healer. So strike all you want, but before you commit fully to this cause, just be aware that someone will come up to fill the void left in the wake of this protest. If your intent is to prevent others from playing the game, then we will find a way to play it. If that means switching to healer, then so be it. Your strike means nothing unless you can get everyone on board and you won't while there are still folks who just want to complete the content and move on with their lives.

Play the game, or don't, but stop acting like you are actually going to make a change this way.

I'm still remembering the tank protest from P1 Savage and how long it lasted before PF just kept doing things the same way as ever.

So what you're saying is that those of us who are switching to DPS don't have to worry about long que-times? That's totes awesome! (ᗒᗨᗕ)

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I was planning to play dps or tank this expac, but I have all healers leveled to 90 at the moment and I'm not afraid to use them. All I can say is... y'all are in for a treat when it comes time to actually *do* something in this game. Sure you can play through the dungeons with trusts, but you're not going to clear the MSQ trials without a healer. So strike all you want, but before you commit fully to this cause, just be aware that someone will come up to fill the void left in the wake of this protest. If your intent is to prevent others from playing the game, then we will find a way to play it. If that means switching to healer, then so be it. Your strike means nothing unless you can get everyone on board and you won't while there are still folks who just want to complete the content and move on with their lives[...]

Cool! I hope you (and many others) will enjoy filling the queues for the strikers who swap to tank/dps/no longer plays healer in pug environments. Rest assured nobody wants to force you to play the worst role in the game, including us. 'Cause guess what, we don't pay your sub!

[...]Play the game, or don't, but stop acting like you are actually going to make a change this way[...]

It's a sad truth that folks needed to be this noisy to get the discussion points even perceived or listened to. Feedbacks has been streaming in for 5-8 (depending on where you draw the line) years on the healer subforum, yet only managed to get a dismissive "lmao go play ultimate" the first time folks got even a little loud about it alongside vitriols from their snarling white knight defenders. Why am I not surprised this Healerstrike also have their fair share of naysayer in their white knight glamours.

Dismissive job dev & their white knights, name a more iconic duo. #GCBTW