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    Quote Originally Posted by Galvuu View Post
    The best part about Picto is that, other than the burst window and keeping some stuff on cd, there's no rotation. You can mix and match to suit what's needed.
    It's actually a lot like a light version of EW BLM- like, a bit more flexible and easier because you have no dot to manage and no Polyglot clock/AF timer, but it actually is quite enjoyable to play as.
    So yea, try that instead of playing healer
    The decision to allow you to paint whenever you want but only have the CD’s attached to actually casting the muses was a fantastic decision

    So like any downtime in the two minutes between 2 starry muse casts you can render the painting, there is no restriction

    It’s easily the best designed part of PCT
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    This thread is absolutely wild to me. A bunch of people complaining that WAR is strong in dungeons. Try running savage/ulti on healer and tell me its easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galvuu View Post
    The best part about Picto is that, other than the burst window and keeping some stuff on cd, there's no rotation. You can mix and match to suit what's needed.
    It's actually a lot like a light version of EW BLM- like, a bit more flexible and easier because you have no dot to manage and no Polyglot clock/AF timer, but it actually is quite enjoyable to play as.
    So yea, try that instead of playing healer
    At first blush, that is my gut feeling as well. Where was the rotation? My FC mates and I talked a while about it and we decided to wing it.

    Everyone thoroughly enjoyed the job. I loved being able to dash around and splash my enemies with paint and actually laughed when my character pulled out a big hammer and started smashing things.

    Pictomancer is so much fun to play! Pictomancer is nothing like the complexity for complexity's sake job I feared it would be.

    There are layers upon layers there; but, there's also choice. It doesn't feel as simple as Summoner (a job I actually enjoy too) . Best of all, there's no pressure to "get it right." Mix and match as you see fit.

    So, I second your recommendation. Check out Pictomancer, everyone!
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    Last edited by Kacho_Nacho; 06-29-2024 at 10:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    This is directly from your "manifesto": "Players supporting the strike wish to hold the development team and Square Enix accountable on their promise to provide a fulfilling and enjoyable experience for everyone."

    It's mind-boggling that people would participate in the strike without even knowing what it's about. The entire goal is to encourage the dev team to make fundamental changes to the game. Unless, of course, that's all a sham and the real reason is to just make yourselves the center of attention when you could just as easily simply choose not to play a healer role?
    I don't see it written anywhere that what's written is the only goal?

    It would be nice if the dev team took notice and changed healers back to something I enjoyed more in older expansions, but if they don't care to, it doesn't matter to a lot of us as long as people who want to spite us are more than willing to take our places, because I and many others have long since given up on the role, we just need someone else to take our place.

    You may think you're harming us, but you're actually making it easier for us to quit the role. I don't know about anyone else, but I only play healer after they ruined it for me because no one else wants to, so if you and those like-minded are suddenly happy to main healers? Great! Go for it, you have my support. I no longer have to play that dumpster fire of a role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    500+ pages and people still can’t read

    That’s what real wild here
    The most depressing part is that when you click into the thread, the "What led to the strike" part of the OP is right there on the screen, this is the case on both mobile and desktop.

    The only people who can miss it are the people who see the title of the thread and immediately jump to the last page to give their inaccurate opinion on their imagined reasons for the strike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    The most depressing part is that when you click into the thread, the "What led to the strike" part of the OP is right there on the screen, this is the case on both mobile and desktop.

    The only people who can miss it are the people who see the title of the thread and immediately jump to the last page to give their inaccurate opinion on their imagined reasons for the strike.
    But according to some people us correcting these incorrect assumptions is “jumping down the throats of people who still like healers”
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    I think they've already formed their opinion from some other source and wanted to jump into the thread to "give their take" despite how uninformed their take actually is. Reading the OP really should be enough to be informed, but then you get more "lolol it's because of that dungeon run is it?" or "just play other jobs" when the OP already goes over that.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    Healers have been neglected for 3 expansions now and this needs to be rectified with the following:
    1. An engaging DPS kit beyond a nuke and DoT.
    2. Increased incoming damage so we have more to heal.
    3. Distinctive playstyles amongst the healers.
    4. Some nerfs to non-healer heals, we shouldn't be replaceable.

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    Got to try the lvl. 91 dungeon. And ya, it’s disappointing compared to Tower of Zot and Holminster.

    One, they hard prevent W2W early on. None of the bosses actually do anything that a lvl. 90 player wouldn’t already know. Just simple run around and dodge the orange.

    Even the tank was wondering what’s wrong with the dungeon. Not a good look. I actively stopped throwing Excog on the tank because it was absolutely pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    I guess that's what happens when the online presence of War players consistently revolves around gatekeeping other supports, and insisting it's job identity being ''needs to be the best tank in all content'', and ''needs to break content that does not drop BiS''
    I find it strange whenever people claim WAR's entire identity should revolve around "too angry to die", isn't that basically being immortal? In what game would it be called remotely balanced for a tank to be basically immortal?

    Self-healing tank? Sure. But self-healing tanks usually come with downsides, such as very little (or none) flat mitigation, usually revolving around boosting their own HP temporarily to delay death.

    Note: "Delay death" not "Beat up boss from 100% to 0% without a healer in a fight designed for a 4 player party".
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