#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Katish]

What. Every job needs a healer in most content other than like, WAR? PLD at a cost to dps? RDM Vercure's aren't keeping a tank topped. In fact, Viper comes with ZERO defensives other than a 120sec and 90sec abilities that hardly sustain over a fight. I will agree that SOME of the healing, shielding, and mit should be taken from the other roles and placed back on the healers, but speaking in hyperboles and over-exaggerations kills any sensible conversation.

Have done full pulls in dungeons with the weakest sustaining tank DRK, without a healer or RDM. It's hilarious. You should check out our run of Mt gulg, min item lvl (below questing gear), sync, full extended pulls (all five pulls, three at the end) no healer. It is truly eye opening and yet depressing at the same time. It is posted in the server. Feel free to see how needed a healer actually is, spoiler alert, they aren't.

By the way, I chose DRK to prove a point in sustain, I hadn't touched it for five months (don't like the concept of not contributing the most dps while having the least amount of sustain). I am in no way a DRK main, but we accomplished way more than I think you should be able to.

[Supersnow845]

Have done full pulls in dungeons with the weakest sustaining tank DRK, without a healer or RDM. It's hilarious. You should check out our run of Mt gulg, min item lvl (below questing gear), sync, full extended pulls (all five pulls, three at the end) no healer. It is truly eye opening and yet depressing at the same time. It is posted in the server. Feel free to see how needed a healer actually is, spoiler alert, they aren't.

By the way, I chose DRK to prove a point in sustain, I hadn't touched it for five months (don't like the concept of not contributing the most dps while having the least amount of sustain). I am in no way a DRK main, but we accomplished way more than I think you should be able to.

Basically from experimenting with 1T3D comps the healer is functionally there to cover their own shortfall

A DRK (and depending on the pull a GNB) generally can’t survive long enough to finish the pull without a healer………….when the pull is going slower because there is a healer in the party and not a 3rd DPS

So healers are basically an enforced burden generated by their own shortfalls

[Katish]

Basically from experimenting with 1T3D comps the healer is functionally there to cover their own shortfall

A DRK (and depending on the pull a GNB) generally can’t survive long enough to finish the pull without a healer………….when the pull is going slower because there is a healer in the party and not a 3rd DPS

So healers are basically an enforced burden generated by their own shortfalls

Indeed this is true, so when a healer just isn't pressing their dps button it's felt that much more in bigger pulls. The role is designed with huge failure in mind, and in my opinion, that makes it a huge failure. Some of our group failed some mechanics and we were still able to recover in the drk comp, reminder we did it below questing gear on all dungeons (min ilvl). So that tells me, the healer is only there for the worst of the worst, and if that isn't occurring they might as well not be there.