#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Xurtan]

I'm not against the strike, I just don't see the point in it. SE hasn't listened so far, so what makes you think "We'll get 'em this time, boys! This time for sure!"?

Because doing something is always better than doing nothing. Giving feedback might mean it will get ignored, not giving any guarantees it will be. Will this amount to anything tangible? Maybe not. Has it gotten more people talking about healers than any other time in the last decade I can think of? Yes.

[Aidorouge]

I'm not against the strike, I just don't see the point in it. SE hasn't listened so far, so what makes you think "We'll get 'em this time, boys! This time for sure!"?

Because even if SE continues to ignore the ex-healers, those healers at least get to go do something else fun instead. And if all the naysayers and anti-strikers want to step up and replace them, by all means nobody is stopping them, because it just insures said ex-healers experience no downside whatsoever to the strike while the supposed "gotcha" crowd has to do the thing they're sooooo sure is perfectly designed and fun.

Alright then, bluff has been called, and we fully expect this new batch of healers to do what they're told with zero complaints because they literally asked, nay, begged and bragged about taking over the role.

[Hellebore_Ghrian]

I just hope you're all prepared to go from not enjoying the game because you don't like how a job is designed - to not enjoying the game because you literally can't play it while you wait for someone else to play that job you don't like.

Our queue time as DPS/Tank will be the same as already non healer players and we all know it. So I don't get the point.

Or, maybe you want to force us playing a job we don't enjoy anymore for the sole reason we start the game with that role ? Are taking us for your slaves or something ?

If you're afraid you can't be patient enough for the queue times, you're free to switch to healer.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I was planning to play dps or tank this expac, but I have all healers leveled to 90 at the moment and I'm not afraid to use them. All I can say is... y'all are in for a treat when it comes time to actually *do* something in this game. Sure you can play through the dungeons with trusts, but you're not going to clear the MSQ trials without a healer. So strike all you want, but before you commit fully to this cause, just be aware that someone will come up to fill the void left in the wake of this protest. If your intent is to prevent others from playing the game, then we will find a way to play it. If that means switching to healer, then so be it. Your strike means nothing unless you can get everyone on board and you won't while there are still folks who just want to complete the content and move on with their lives[...]

Cool! I hope you (and many others) will enjoy filling the queues for the strikers who swap to tank/dps/no longer plays healer in pug environments. Rest assured nobody wants to force you to play the worst role in the game, including us. 'Cause guess what, we don't pay your sub!

[...]Play the game, or don't, but stop acting like you are actually going to make a change this way[...]

It's a sad truth that folks needed to be this noisy to get the discussion points even perceived or listened to. Feedbacks has been streaming in for 5-8 (depending on where you draw the line) years on the healer subforum, yet only managed to get a dismissive "lmao go play ultimate" the first time folks got even a little loud about it alongside vitriols from their snarling white knight defenders. Why am I not surprised this Healerstrike also have their fair share of naysayer in their white knight glamours.

Dismissive job dev & their white knights, name a more iconic duo. #GCBTW

[Teno]

The new sage dot doesn't stack with the existing one, f these devs.

[CrimsonGunner]

I'm not white-knighting the devs if that's what you're insinuating. I just think that everyone here hasn't quite considered all the facts and one of those being that the void left behind by the striking healers won't be so easily filled. So go enjoy your DPS jobs until it's time to queue for your first MSQ trial. I've played DPS the whole game (except for Savage raiding; but surely *this time* I won't have to switch to healer just to complete the tier in a reasonable amount of time, right? right?). The queue times are downright hurtful at times. I just hope you're all prepared to go from not enjoying the game because you don't like how a job is designed - to not enjoying the game because you literally can't play it while you wait for someone else to play that job you don't like.

It's easy to ignore a inconvenient truth if it makes doing something easier.... but it's foolish to ignore that truth if one isn't prepared to accept the natural consequences of ignoring said truth.



I'm not against the strike, I just don't see the point in it. SE hasn't listened so far, so what makes you think "We'll get 'em this time, boys! This time for sure!"?

Not exactly bright...

Your time is also their time cause you know they joined you in queue and run if you meet them.

Second, there is duty support for dungeons.
You can pf to trials and raids too if you dont like DF.

Lastly this isnt face to face protest also i doubt they mention to other healers join or else...
Also im pretty sure if it wasnt a big deal it wouldnt had recieved the buzz and other healers wouldnt have agreed on the core as most of them clearly understand why it being done.

[CrimsonGunner]

Basically if there will be healer missing issue the strike wins. If there isnt or you must change to healer and hate to be one, they still enjoy their new job so they still win.

[CrimsonGunner]

Because even if SE continues to ignore the ex-healers, those healers at least get to go do something else fun instead. And if all the naysayers and anti-strikers want to step up and replace them, by all means nobody is stopping them, because it just insures said ex-healers experience no downside whatsoever to the strike while the supposed "gotcha" crowd has to do the thing they're sooooo sure is perfectly designed and fun.

Alright then, bluff has been called, and we fully expect this new batch of healers to do what they're told with zero complaints because they literally asked, nay, begged and bragged about taking over the role.

Pfff, precisely

[AlexaAura]

It hurts to say but it feels like the job design team is just plain incompetent at this point. And I really wish I didn't feel that way...but how can you remove Sage's Two dots and make it so they can't overlap...Why would you ever do that? You sell it as "The DPS Healer" but then they make decisions like this. What are they doing over there, who is making these decisions.

[Isala]

It hurts to say but it feels like the job design team is just plain incompetent at this point. And I really wish I didn't feel that way...but how can you remove Sage's Two dots and make it so they can't overlap...Why would you ever do that? You sell it as "The DPS Healer" but then they make decisions like this. What are they doing over there, who is making these decisions.

Even some of the tanks and DPS are starting to feel the effects of their design decisions heavily. They're destroying the individuality of each of the jobs, and homogenizing them down to the point where they just don't feel good. Like, okay, sure. Warrior was always kinda unga bunga. And then we got Fell Cleave spam. Which got nerfed to a braindead 3 guaranteed Fell Cleaves, because I guess fitting 5 in a window was somehow hard? But then why did DRK get that exact same playstyle for their rotation?