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  1. #4931
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    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...rd-party-sites

    I've made a forum post for it, we can talk about it further there lets stop derailing this thread with this.
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  2. #4932
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    I jumped pages to pages, so I may have missed out a lot.

    Feel free to use "view page" marker within the quotes to see how they interact with people
    Let's also not forget that there's one of them amongst the forummonger you linked who actually went directly into JP forum to sabotage a similar thread made by one of EN user by purposely typing in English and insult the EN community. Funny how people keep yelling the strike isn't going to be of any significance but also give so much attention to it. Pick a lane already lol.

    But that's alright. We're the best community, right? /s
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    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

  3. #4933
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    Is there a reason the strike starts on the July 2nd ("official release") rather than on June 28th ("early access")?

    (This may have been answered before but there are nearly 500 pages...)
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  4. #4934
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Let's also not forget that there's one of them amongst the forummonger you linked who actually went directly into JP forum to sabotage a similar thread made by one of EN user by purposely typing in English and insult the EN community. Funny how people keep yelling the strike isn't going to be of any significance but also give so much attention to it. Pick a lane already lol.

    But that's alright. We're the best community, right? /s
    Should we point out that if people think the strike has significance, there wouldn't be a need to go into the single thread on this forum where people are posting what they enjoy about healing and trying to disrupt it? There's a whole bunch of people from this thread that have tried doing that...or, perhaps, are we going to acknowledge that when there's a group of people doing something, trying to act as if one single person's actions somehow represent the group is dishonest...

    And yeah, our community in FFXIV is leaps and bounds above most others that I've experienced. The forums are never a good place to determine that, though. These are almost invariably cesspools of negativity and toxicity. I go by what I experience in-game as the norm.
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  5. #4935
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo View Post
    Is there a reason the strike starts on the July 2nd ("official release") rather than on June 28th ("early access")?

    (This may have been answered before but there are nearly 500 pages...)
    I dont think it really matters. People who are into the strike are taking a break from the game or playing other roles since they first heard of this like i did.

    People who dont care as much or just want to get their fill of healing before the strike can change what they play later like on early access or release.

    Id say i really recommend people play other roles for story content anyway. Little battle encounters or solo instances on healer is a perfect way to ruin the game experience.

    But yeah the point of the strike isnt actually to strike, its to get attention to the matter. It has nothing to do with actually trying to affect queue times.
    I think its more just a psa. To me, i was always a healer main but started picking up dps jobs when i got bored. So, why not just wait longer to play dps and have fun too anyway? That's how i view the strike.
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  6. #4936
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Should we point out that if people think the strike has significance, there wouldn't be a need to go into the single thread on this forum where people are posting what they enjoy about healing and trying to disrupt it? There's a whole bunch of people from this thread that have tried doing that...or, perhaps, are we going to acknowledge that when there's a group of people doing something, trying to act as if one single person's actions somehow represent the group is dishonest...

    And yeah, our community in FFXIV is leaps and bounds above most others that I've experienced. The forums are never a good place to determine that, though. These are almost invariably cesspools of negativity and toxicity. I go by what I experience in-game as the norm.
    You're completely right here. Players in FF14 are generally more welcoming and polite. There are always a few bitter people who go into threads they dislike and project their own bitterness onto others, but generally it has been fine.

    In any other community you'd find thousands of players like this guy, but here, thankfully we only have one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Narrator's voice: People on this forum have called every single new expansion in existence the "worst one so far" since the game started. This place has been a negative echo chamber for the game's entire lifespan. The couple dozen or so bitter residents are meaningless compared to the hundreds of thousands of players enjoying the game.
    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Spot on. The doubly hilarious part is that the "band of bitter malcontents" still deep-down acknowledges that the restaurant is actually good, because when nobody's watching, they continue going inside and being customers themselves.
    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Thankfully, the silent majority of players are having a blast playing the game, having fun, and may not even know these other things exist, let alone find anything meaningful in them. Pray, disregard the bad-faith forum posters who are addicted to the game but so pathetically bitter they can't stand the thought of other people enjoying something.
    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Except, of course, that they're not. FC's are filled, queues pop even for odd raids at all hours of the day. It is indeed a vocal minority of pathetically bitter people here on the forums that are complaining because they can't stand that other people are having fun playing the game. This forum was less of a cesspool when a certain few people took some time off (ironically, for all they claim to hate the game, they...apparently resubbed and are actively playing again...).
    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Except that it primarily is. Look around and most of the pro-EW crowd doesn't try to force their beliefs on the naysayers, they just point out that in the grand scheme of things most people think like them. They generally know how to present opinions as opinions. The same sadly can't be said for the bitter doom crew.
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  7. #4937
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderClone View Post
    You're completely right here. Players in FF14 are generally more welcoming and polite. There are always a few bitter people who go into threads they dislike and project their own bitterness onto others, but generally it has been fine.

    In any other community you'd find thousands of players like this guy, but here, thankfully we only have one.
    My man coming in with the receipts, nice.
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  8. #4938
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    I support the healer strike!
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  9. #4939
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    And yeah, our community in FFXIV is leaps and bounds above most others that I've experienced.
    Ahh yes, I have heard of the great community we have in FFXIV. In fact, I have looked far and wide and have seen many examples proving just how great our community is.

    As pointed out in a separate thread , the accolades of many in this thread have been gone over and praised by others in this great community. They do this on their public channels maximize the amount of visibility towards these specific players, surely aiming to show people in this thread in a good light.

    Perhaps a different case would be by one particular member (no witch-hunting please) of our great community, who compiled a spreadsheet of all our achievements in this thread. They seem like a trustworthy individual and are in no way trying to stoke anything negative about any particular group of players. Even you, Striker44, are included in this list, complete with your character and their achievements in terms of battle content to show just how diverse of a community we are in terms of skill level.

    See how wonderful of a community we are? It is as they say, we are a great community, by the way...
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    Last edited by ZavosEsperian; 06-25-2024 at 07:10 AM. Reason: I do not condone any harassment or negative behavior towards anyone mentioned directly or indirectly.

  10. #4940
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderClone View Post
    You're completely right here. Players in FF14 are generally more welcoming and polite. There are always a few bitter people who go into threads they dislike and project their own bitterness onto others, but generally it has been fine.

    In any other community you'd find thousands of players like this guy, but here, thankfully we only have one.
    Ooh, so is this where we use the comment the other poster made about whoever made that "spreadsheet" thing and point out how much a simple random person like me has gotten in your head that you went all the way through my history to selectively grab a few? Nice!

    (By the way, why not do the same to any of the people that have invaded the positive thread about healing? Oh, right, that wouldn't be upholding the double standard...)

    Kudos, though, for proving my point about the cesspool that is the forums compared to the positivity that exists in the game. I appreciate it!

    See how wonderful of a community we are? It is as they say, we are a great community, by the way...
    Serious question - did you just respond to a post that pointed out how one person isn't representative of the whole and try to "debunk" it by...posting an example of one person that isn't representative of the whole? I'm very confused...
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    Last edited by Striker44; 06-25-2024 at 07:08 AM. Reason: Added last part

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