#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Alice_Rivers]

I think rather than MP, any tank raise should come with a HEFTY opportunity cost, like the standard raise cast time PLUS a requiescat token or more but even that goes against my principle position that tanks shouldn't be able to raise people, it's bad enough that tanks are increasingly capable of solo-ing content.

[Supersnow845]

Tanks should NEVER be allowed to raise in any content because it opens too many doors to

Hallowed ground a mechanic that nobody understands -> raise the healer -> healer either LB3’s or raises the party

When you are in a desperate situation rotational opportunity cost is irrelevant for the tank. Who cares if you can’t requiescat when you just managed to half skip a mechanic because you survived then rezzed the healer allowing you to continue

[Aravell]

Rather than a raise, I think it could be interesting if tanks gained a sacrifice ability where they can choose to die to give 5s of invulnerability to a party member.

That gives the tank some agency in preventing a wipe, but it's also a major sacrifice to do it and you have to time it properly, said invulnerability would also not protect from damage that goes through tank invulnerability.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Rather than a raise, I think it could be interesting if tanks gained a sacrifice ability where they can choose to die to give 5s of invulnerability to a party member.

That gives the tank some agency in preventing a wipe, but it's also a major sacrifice to do it and you have to time it properly, said invulnerability would also not protect from damage that goes through tank invulnerability.

...wow, that's a button I'm not gonna touch with a 10 ft pole. I sort of get the fantasy and we have something similar in Bozja + Eureka, but there it makes sense considering the content it is designed for (Baldesion Arsenal, Delubrum Reginae Savage) restricting raises greatly, so a Sacrifice is worth it.

If it isn't even a raise, I'm not gonna touch that if it guarantees my death. Also, we actually sort of have what you ask for - Cover. Take all damage for a teammate, making them basically immune at the cost of your own life to whatever is about to kill them in most cases.

Just apply Weakness or Brink of Death to me without the death and then maybe?

[PietyAnxiety]

Rather than a raise, I think it could be interesting if tanks gained a sacrifice ability where they can choose to die to give 5s of invulnerability to a party member.

That gives the tank some agency in preventing a wipe, but it's also a major sacrifice to do it and you have to time it properly, said invulnerability would also not protect from damage that goes through tank invulnerability.

Oh.my.god! Give this skill to dark knights!

[PietyAnxiety]

Oh.my.god! Give this skill to dark knights!

-wait but actually… make it a raise. A sacrifice that allows them to pick and raise someone. I truly wouldn’t mind it.

[ForsakenRoe]

Why on earth is the idea of a tank Raise even being entertained

[Kacho_Nacho]

Why on earth is the idea of a tank Raise even being entertained

No idea. Don't tanks have enough already?

[Aravell]

I don't know about anyone else, but I think tank raise would be way far outside of their role fantasy that it would be a massive stretch to make it work.

But I'm open to exploring another thing that fits the tank role fantasy, self-sacrifice to defend an ally. That provides agency to the tank in that they can defend a key member (healer/res caster) to prevent a wipe, it also kills the tank so aggro is an issue to take care of if the tank is forced to use it.

[AmiableApkallu]

But I'm open to exploring another thing that fits the tank role fantasy, self-sacrifice to defend an ally.

Sacrifice L would like a word.