#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Derio]

I just hope devs take the positive feedback from here and use that to further better encounter design and hopefully in 8.0 better job design for healers.

[Kaurhz]

Ooh, so is this where we use the comment the other poster made about whoever made that "spreadsheet" thing and point out how much a simple random person like me has gotten in your head that you went all the way through my history to selectively grab a few? Nice!

(By the way, why not do the same to any of the people that have invaded the positive thread about healing? Oh, right, that wouldn't be upholding the double standard...)

Kudos, though, for proving my point about the cesspool that is the forums compared to the positivity that exists in the game. I appreciate it!

I mean, he's not wrong, really...

Like you can't call the forums an 'almost invariably cesspools of negativity and toxicity', and then expect someone to not be curious about it or the person making that statement, for example.

[Kes13a]

I just hope devs take the positive feedback from here and use that to further better encounter design and hopefully in 8.0 better job design for healers.

not 100% sure on that. there have been good posts in the healer forums for years that were good feedback, examples, ways things could be done to change the downward slide and they have been pointedly ignored.

which is why we are where we are today... with this thread.

[Noragiri]

is this out of season april fools joke

[Striker44]

I mean, he's not wrong, really...

Like you can't call the forums an 'almost invariably cesspools of negativity and toxicity', and then expect someone to not be curious about it or the person making that statement, for example.

Oh sure, I was just pointing out that some of the people pushing the strike considered it a weird sort of "victory" that they got in someone's head enough to do that. I was confused by that because I thought the goal was to change the game, not annoy those who enjoy it, and the support of that comment seemed to be undermining the claim being made. Yet here, that same group seems to be giving others a "victory" for getting in their own heads. I feel like Scar from the Lion King right about now...

[Wolfius]

OK now that we're taking about healers not getting enough attention let's talk about how come tanks skills like PLD Holy Sheltron and GNB Heart of Corondum has shield animations when getting hit and Sage new class on Endwalker who came the same expansion as those skills and is a "Shield Healer" class doesn't have any shield animations like scholar on their barriers at all.
That's something that bugged me since AST nocturnal stance back in those days and I thought maybe it's a lot of work, and I been waiting and waiting they took notice but clearly they did since they're giving to tanks and I think reaper has shield animation too on their Arcane Crest, again a class that came with the Sage, the developers need to pay attention to this because it kinda hurts the dps and tanks got really cool skills, but healers are getting no animations on their shields and a 1 2 but Dps with not enough damage on tanks during dungeons to keep up the effort on healing.

[ZavosEsperian]

Serious question - did you just respond to a post that pointed out how one person isn't representative of the whole and try to "debunk" it by...posting an example of one person that isn't representative of the whole? I'm very confused...

I am fairly certain you know any amount of case examples, regardless of how large or small or exhaustive, I provide can never represent the entire great majoritah you envision. It is also clear you avoided the other item I mentioned which is much wider in scope. I could go on, at length, at the number of threads created on this forum that discuss topics related to harassment and stalking that goes on in this community. Or the fact this very thread has had a fair number of bad faith actors in it. With that stated, it will never be enough to convince the king of the majoritah to understand what they rule over is not something to be proud of.

By the way, it would be important to note you are equally as responsible to the great community's reputation on the forums as we all are. But alas, perhaps this Miqo'te cannot see the forest through the trees...

[Turtledeluxe]

Ok, well, have fun. Neither of us were trying to stop you.

Maybe you weren't but there are two things you and your likes are doing:

1. Being captain obvious. Do you think anyone needs you to point out toxic raiders? We know about them already. Parse culture is very well known.

2. Being deceptive and intimidating. There's nothing about your warning useful to anyone. It's easy to get started with prog, the game has tons of resources and networks, even if you don't make friends in game.

Your post is just weird bootlicking and honestly a bit of a veiled threat.

People participating in the strike and or privatizing their info have nothing to fear at all. If someone's going to exclude you based on that, let them. The raiding scene is in no way a monolith.

[Rozeee]

OK now that we're taking about healers not getting enough attention let's talk about how come tanks skills like PLD Holy Sheltron and GNB Heart of Corondum has shield animations when getting hit and Sage new class on Endwalker who came the same expansion as those skills and is a "Shield Healer" class doesn't have any shield animations like scholar on their barriers at all.
That's something that bugged me since AST nocturnal stance back in those days and I thought maybe it's a lot of work, and I been waiting and waiting they took notice but clearly they did since they're giving to tanks and I think reaper has shield animation too on their Arcane Crest, again a class that came with the Sage, the developers need to pay attention to this because it kinda hurts the dps and tanks got really cool skills, but healers are getting no animations on their shields and a 1 2 but Dps with not enough damage on tanks during dungeons to keep up the effort on healing.

I feel as if this point doesn't get brought up enough. Little details like this help sell the job fantasy and it speaks to the general lack of polish and care the healer role gets. Things like Physis 1 being 15y and Physis 2 being 30y even though at the level you get Physis 1, Kerachole is already 30y. Ruin 2 being core to SCH gameplay but still has the same animation from ARR. It's hard to argue in the dev's favour when BLM has a unique animation for manaward but the new barrier healer doesn't even have an animation for it's shield effect.

It's a minor detail that doesn't matter in the end but it just adds to the skepticism that the devs don't care about healers.

[TaleraRistain]

OK now that we're taking about healers not getting enough attention let's talk about how come tanks skills like PLD Holy Sheltron and GNB Heart of Corondum has shield animations when getting hit and Sage new class on Endwalker who came the same expansion as those skills and is a "Shield Healer" class doesn't have any shield animations like scholar on their barriers at all.
That's something that bugged me since AST nocturnal stance back in those days and I thought maybe it's a lot of work, and I been waiting and waiting they took notice but clearly they did since they're giving to tanks and I think reaper has shield animation too on their Arcane Crest, again a class that came with the Sage, the developers need to pay attention to this because it kinda hurts the dps and tanks got really cool skills, but healers are getting no animations on their shields and a 1 2 but Dps with not enough damage on tanks during dungeons to keep up the effort on healing.

What do you mean? You get a cylinder shield animation when you use E Diagnosis and a square shield when you use Haima. AoE shielding isn't as obvious but some like Kerachole do show a brief circle animation around a player. Holos and Panhaima are a little hard to tell, though.