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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Should we point out that if people think the strike has significance, there wouldn't be a need to go into the single thread on this forum where people are posting what they enjoy about healing and trying to disrupt it? There's a whole bunch of people from this thread that have tried doing that...or, perhaps, are we going to acknowledge that when there's a group of people doing something, trying to act as if one single person's actions somehow represent the group is dishonest...

    And yeah, our community in FFXIV is leaps and bounds above most others that I've experienced. The forums are never a good place to determine that, though. These are almost invariably cesspools of negativity and toxicity. I go by what I experience in-game as the norm.
    You're completely right here. Players in FF14 are generally more welcoming and polite. There are always a few bitter people who go into threads they dislike and project their own bitterness onto others, but generally it has been fine.

    In any other community you'd find thousands of players like this guy, but here, thankfully we only have one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Narrator's voice: People on this forum have called every single new expansion in existence the "worst one so far" since the game started. This place has been a negative echo chamber for the game's entire lifespan. The couple dozen or so bitter residents are meaningless compared to the hundreds of thousands of players enjoying the game.
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    Spot on. The doubly hilarious part is that the "band of bitter malcontents" still deep-down acknowledges that the restaurant is actually good, because when nobody's watching, they continue going inside and being customers themselves.
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    Thankfully, the silent majority of players are having a blast playing the game, having fun, and may not even know these other things exist, let alone find anything meaningful in them. Pray, disregard the bad-faith forum posters who are addicted to the game but so pathetically bitter they can't stand the thought of other people enjoying something.
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    Except, of course, that they're not. FC's are filled, queues pop even for odd raids at all hours of the day. It is indeed a vocal minority of pathetically bitter people here on the forums that are complaining because they can't stand that other people are having fun playing the game. This forum was less of a cesspool when a certain few people took some time off (ironically, for all they claim to hate the game, they...apparently resubbed and are actively playing again...).
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    Except that it primarily is. Look around and most of the pro-EW crowd doesn't try to force their beliefs on the naysayers, they just point out that in the grand scheme of things most people think like them. They generally know how to present opinions as opinions. The same sadly can't be said for the bitter doom crew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderClone View Post
    You're completely right here. Players in FF14 are generally more welcoming and polite. There are always a few bitter people who go into threads they dislike and project their own bitterness onto others, but generally it has been fine.

    In any other community you'd find thousands of players like this guy, but here, thankfully we only have one.
    My man coming in with the receipts, nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderClone View Post
    You're completely right here. Players in FF14 are generally more welcoming and polite. There are always a few bitter people who go into threads they dislike and project their own bitterness onto others, but generally it has been fine.

    In any other community you'd find thousands of players like this guy, but here, thankfully we only have one.
    Ooh, so is this where we use the comment the other poster made about whoever made that "spreadsheet" thing and point out how much a simple random person like me has gotten in your head that you went all the way through my history to selectively grab a few? Nice!

    (By the way, why not do the same to any of the people that have invaded the positive thread about healing? Oh, right, that wouldn't be upholding the double standard...)

    Kudos, though, for proving my point about the cesspool that is the forums compared to the positivity that exists in the game. I appreciate it!

    See how wonderful of a community we are? It is as they say, we are a great community, by the way...
    Serious question - did you just respond to a post that pointed out how one person isn't representative of the whole and try to "debunk" it by...posting an example of one person that isn't representative of the whole? I'm very confused...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Ooh, so is this where we use the comment the other poster made about whoever made that "spreadsheet" thing and point out how much a simple random person like me has gotten in your head that you went all the way through my history to selectively grab a few? Nice!

    (By the way, why not do the same to any of the people that have invaded the positive thread about healing? Oh, right, that wouldn't be upholding the double standard...)

    Kudos, though, for proving my point about the cesspool that is the forums compared to the positivity that exists in the game. I appreciate it!
    I mean, he's not wrong, really...

    Like you can't call the forums an 'almost invariably cesspools of negativity and toxicity', and then expect someone to not be curious about it or the person making that statement, for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    I mean, he's not wrong, really...

    Like you can't call the forums an 'almost invariably cesspools of negativity and toxicity', and then expect someone to not be curious about it or the person making that statement, for example.
    Oh sure, I was just pointing out that some of the people pushing the strike considered it a weird sort of "victory" that they got in someone's head enough to do that. I was confused by that because I thought the goal was to change the game, not annoy those who enjoy it, and the support of that comment seemed to be undermining the claim being made. Yet here, that same group seems to be giving others a "victory" for getting in their own heads. I feel like Scar from the Lion King right about now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Serious question - did you just respond to a post that pointed out how one person isn't representative of the whole and try to "debunk" it by...posting an example of one person that isn't representative of the whole? I'm very confused...
    I am fairly certain you know any amount of case examples, regardless of how large or small or exhaustive, I provide can never represent the entire great majoritah you envision. It is also clear you avoided the other item I mentioned which is much wider in scope. I could go on, at length, at the number of threads created on this forum that discuss topics related to harassment and stalking that goes on in this community. Or the fact this very thread has had a fair number of bad faith actors in it. With that stated, it will never be enough to convince the king of the majoritah to understand what they rule over is not something to be proud of.

    By the way, it would be important to note you are equally as responsible to the great community's reputation on the forums as we all are. But alas, perhaps this Miqo'te cannot see the forest through the trees...
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