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    Verathel Tetras
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Giving Dia a 15 percent to proc Glare IV honestly would have been more exciting than some of the level up spells WHM got...

    Probably first expansion since Heavenwards that the new spells disappointed me a little bit and getting even more absorbs as a WHM feels weird. Idk why but always felt we should be the mega raw HPS kings.
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    Last edited by Verathel; 06-30-2024 at 04:10 PM.

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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Verathel View Post

    Probably first expansion since Heavenwards that the new spells disappointed me a little bit and getting even more absorbs as a WHM feels weird. Idk why but always felt we should be the mega raw HPS kings.
    Because it's basically the FF series equivalent to a priest. Yes they used elemental magic but throughout all of the games white mages have been key figures as healers and spiritual leaders in the world. Priest/Clerics have always been associated with healers in TTRPGs and RPGs in general so going through RPG trends WHM should be the most big heal focused healer.
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    Verathel Tetras
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    Because it's basically the FF series equivalent to a priest. Yes they used elemental magic but throughout all of the games white mages have been key figures as healers and spiritual leaders in the world. Priest/Clerics have always been associated with healers in TTRPGs and RPGs in general so going through RPG trends WHM should be the most big heal focused healer.
    Yeah all things considered, elemental spells make it a little like shaman too which at least unique.
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    Illya Prisma
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    Famfrit
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Scholar: Chain Stratagem should just be an AoE at this point. Using chain on a single trash mob to unlock our "Bane" is a bit awkward. Either an AoE Chain or separating Baneful Impaction from Chain entirely.

    Astrologian: The new card system has received mixed feedback, but I believe the biggest issue is drifting Draw. An additional charge was added to Draw to address this issue previously, and now it feels like we've taken a step backwards.

    White Mage: While it's been a meme for some time, I believe WHM is genuinely being eclipsed by the other healers. It simply does not have the kit to compete, especially with the addition of ASTs new cards. The only thing WHM truly excels in is mobility, which may prove useful in the coming raid tier.
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    Lina Shepard
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    Coeurl
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    Sage Lv 90
    Please just remove green dps from the game. Whats the point in making me press one button for 80% of every fight just so people can complain you aren't pressing that one button hard enough? It's making the game toxic to play as healer the longer it goes on.
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    Last edited by LShepard; 06-30-2024 at 08:35 PM. Reason: :/

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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by LShepard View Post
    Please just remove green dps from the game. Whats the point in making me press one button for 80% of every fight just so people can complain you aren't pressing that one button hard enough? It's making the game toxic to play as healer the longer it goes on.
    They don’t do that because they are too scared of actually making healers heal

    Or the worst of all worlds healers lose DPS options and tanks maintain survivability

    Imagine being forced to cure 1 spam an immortal WAR, just log off at that point your contribution is equivalent
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LShepard View Post
    Please just remove green dps from the game. Whats the point in making me press one button for 80% of every fight just so people can complain you aren't pressing that one button hard enough? It's making the game toxic to play as healer the longer it goes on.
    If you do that, then healers will no longer be "casual-friendly" as it meant all fights will be designed to have consistent and "stressful" healing checks to challenge a 100% healing kit... unless you mean removing healers since their healing, supportive, and mitigating actions have been scattered to all jobs.
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    Last edited by rawker; 06-30-2024 at 09:17 PM.

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    Medim Azurarok
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    Also solo content would no longer be an option. A role limited in the opposite way of Blue Mage.

    Related, I always thought having a fun dps rotation would help make people think about healing better so they get to actually do it. I guess that depends on whether one actually enjoy dps rotations, though
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    Fu Soya
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 55
    More power to those who believe in this, but this isn't having an effect on the game. They can take some of the healing away from other classes, but I don't need dps tools beyond what I have. I'm there to heal and keep the party alive.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBriggs304 View Post
    More power to those who believe in this, but this isn't having an effect on the game. They can take some of the healing away from other classes, but I don't need dps tools beyond what I have. I'm there to heal and keep the party alive.
    “I’m there to heal and keep the party alive”

    Sorry love that’s the WAR’s job now
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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