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    GrimGale's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitiaraIornsight View Post
    Lunar Sub..... but remember the whole argument is that a Warrior as a tank means healers are irrelavent and yet, the majority of my runs as a healer and as a dps says otherwise. But nooooooooooooooooo healers aren't needed, isn't that the point of the thread? Because a God Tier uWu tank cleared with 3 dps and no heals. I mean... Warriors don't need healers right? Yet somehow mine couldn't live once the healer ate mechanics and died.
    Just watch the actual run goddamn.

    The whole thing complaint about Xeno clearing without healers is that it makes really evident how little healing actually is needed, not the fact that it was run without a healer. If even your non healers can produce enough self sustain to complete a dungeon that means that the healing gameplay is basically barren when we were promised an "updated" battle system in Dawntrail. We have been hoping for six years already that the justification for our DPS kits to be pruned down to 1 nuke and 1 DoT would be "more actual healing to do". But with Xeno's run it became clear that is not going to be the case yet AGAIN.
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    Kitiara Utmatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    Just watch the actual run goddamn.

    The whole thing complaint about Xeno clearing without healers is that it makes really evident how little healing actually is needed, not the fact that it was run without a healer. If even your non healers can produce enough self sustain to complete a dungeon that means that the healing gameplay is basically barren when we were promised an "updated" battle system in Dawntrail. We have been hoping for six years already that the justification for our DPS kits to be pruned down to 1 nuke and 1 DoT would be "more actual healing to do". But with Xeno's run it became clear that is not going to be the case yet AGAIN.
    I did watch the run. I watched it twice.
    edit to add:
    I also understand what a months old build of a TEST dungeon means. Very well things will change with it. I also understand the group playing, they also all died several times, it took them nearly a half hour to clear the dungeon because of this and because of no healer..... The average run of the mill tank in the game, including casual warriors are not capable of doing what they did.
    Also Yoshi P in a current interview specifically stated the difficulty level will be increased in EXPERT dungeons, the level 100 ones, they are going to keep the skill floor low for the story dungeons.
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    Last edited by KitiaraIornsight; 06-21-2024 at 04:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KitiaraIornsight View Post
    I did watch the run. I watched it twice.
    edit to add:
    I also understand what a months old build of a TEST dungeon means. Very well things will change with it. I also understand the group playing, they also all died several times, it took them nearly a half hour to clear the dungeon because of this and because of no healer..... The average run of the mill tank in the game, including casual warriors are not capable of doing what they did.
    ...they were also clicking their skills, having a giggle and the dungeon was new for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitiaraIornsight View Post
    The average run of the mill tank in the game, including casual warriors are not capable of doing what they did.
    I must be encountering Pros in 90% if my roulettes then. I am basically almost never needed beyond the odd Recitation+Excog from time to time.

    My GCDs in most content are still AoW spam and Broil spam.
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