#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[MisterNublet]

JP forums just aren’t that active in general but healer does seem to be overall the role that they are most dissatisfied with (Kaiten was a big one but they seem collectively fine with DPS). This isn’t to say they are angry just mildly bleh about the role for a variety of reasons. A larger than most consensus seems to want more to heal which is basically the only somewhat unifying opinion. Quite a few like how easy they are but they have also got rebuked as “in a role of 4 jobs not all 4 need to be easy”

They disagree with the nature of the strike as an action but they don’t seem to oppose the idea that people want to be heard (especially because the prevailing view on the JP forums is the devs exclusively listen to us and ignore the JP forums). They don’t really like how vitriolic our forums are but theirs are also way more strongly moderated

Overall there is no real strong motion either way in JP, just a mild “bleh” they basically have about any change that isn’t like the first benchmark

If you truly want to know how the JP players feel and their uncensored thoughts, one will need to seek out their anonymous boards (chan sites).

NA board doesn't compare to how angry and vitriolic those boards can get. Yoshi-P asking players to be kind to the developers didn't come about from the official forums.

[Supersnow845]

There's no reason for them to alter healers to suit a small number players who have maxed out the game to a point where the only way to give them a new challenge is to remake healers entirely. It's better to seek out new challenges and maybe play another game for a new challenge.

Can yall genuinely make up your minds as to whether we are ultra casuals who need to do ultimate or ultimate raiders who need to think of the casuals

I genuinely can’t keep up

If you truly want to know how the JP players feel and their uncensored thoughts, one will need to seek out their anonymous boards (chan sites).

NA board doesn't compare to how angry and vitriolic those boards can get. Yoshi-P asking players to be kind to the developers didn't come about from the official forums.

I know, you can’t pay me to go on 2chan

[Pandurah]

snip snap

It's about having fun more than it is being challenged. Yes, some find being challenged fun, but a lot of us agree that healers playstyle is boring, not just unchallenging.

[MisterNublet]

There's no reason for them to alter healers to suit a small number players who have maxed out the game to a point where the only way to give them a new challenge is to remake healers entirely. It's better to seek out new challenges and maybe play another game for a new challenge.

We should give tanks the healer treatment too then, right? 1 Damage, 1 DoT, 1 AoE so we don't alienate anyone for such a small number of players. Tanks can just go else where if they want better challenges or play another game.

I just did quick glance at the Europe Raiding Central discord and it seems healers are the most sought at role atm for statics.

In a perfect world, the role should be in a state where 25% of the people play it.

Or - some healer mains won't like this - in a state where people that don't main them can pick them up and play them while having fun.

It was funny that in my old static, need to fill the tank role? No problem, 3 of us will. Fill the Healer slot? Everyone was fighting each other not to be the ones stuck playing that role. Not because it was difficult, but because the role is just that damn boring. We ended up agreeing to do a role rotation so players didn't feel like they were stuck having to main healer.

I know, you can’t pay me to go on 2chan

I don't blame ya. Haha.

[Dusty_Inkwell]

Then you don't know the full extent of the issues. You just don't know any different, sounds harsh but it's true. If you'd like to know more, go read the thread, look at the ample examples laid out by more articulate users than me.
If not then, ok... thanks for the bump!

I fail to see why that matters. I enjoy the current content and heard people tell me how healing was in patches and expansions before.
Just because I'm newer than the wise old veterans, doesn't mean I can't have my opinion on the subject.

I enjoy healing as it is. If something changes, fine by me but I'm fine if not and sabotaging with something as childish as a "healer strike" in a bloody mmo is beyond me. But again, you do you.

[WeakestZenosEnjoyer]

The only payment I would accept to go on a -chan site is a full healer rework conceding to all requests and a "no take backsies" card.

it is really funny how we're somehow super casual ultimate raiders that have maxed the game out but don't understand it.

[Keiizah]

The solution is just make more situations to heal in shb dungeons and on (just increase the incoming damage and decrease war selfheal its that straightforward. Tower of zot, holminster switch,tower of babil are like perfect examples of making healers actually heal and not spam 1+dot+aoe). Adding a longer dps rotation wont fix the main issue that healers arent seen as healers, but just third weak dps. It will only attract more so called "green dps" who act like healing on a healer job is a torture. In endgame normal dungeons there is barely any need to use 80-90% of healers cds. Especially if the tank is a warrior.

yeah this strike wont do anything but people are still allowed to voice their dissatisfaction. There is nothing wrong with wishing for more engaging gameplay without being forced into extreme and ultimate because the gap between normal dungeons and hard content is way too big. Is it really that much to ask for the game to make use of more of our abilities, which this game literally provides us?

[TBerry]

Can yall genuinely make up your minds as to whether we are ultra casuals who need to do ultimate or ultimate raiders who need to think of the casuals

I genuinely can’t keep up

Can you decide whether you want more DPS or more heals then?

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Been just following this silly thread since a couple days and YT shoving healer strike vids into my face also kept me up to date. I've started playing shortly before EW dropped. I have been a healer ever since. I do savage when I get fc or friends to form a group I can join (I ain't ever gonna touch pf hell) and I've been enjoying healer all this time. I play 99.9% exclusively as Sage and I still love the hell outta that job.
If there's anything I would like to change, it's just more chances to use heals more often. I don't want more dps, just more healing situations. But if you run daily roulettes, theres plenty of runs where you get to heal a crapton, because people are new and don't know how to play or dodge or whatever the hell is going on.

I personally never had much of an issue and I certainly won't strike. You go and stop playing your healers, while I enjoy even faster ques as healer /shrug

We can have both more healing and more interesting DPS options, and that's also what these folks are going to advocate for. They're not mutually exclusive.

If you're hell bent on playing healer that's also up to you. Nobody but you pay your own sub. Enjoy the game, dawntrail, and your time with your friend.

[Supersnow845]

Can you decide whether you want more DPS or more heals then?

Well unlike the other dilemma that doesn’t contradict at all

More DPS options to bring all content up, more healing mostly in high end content so the floor is unchanged in casual content but engagement is higher, floor and ceiling go up in high end content and the reliance on body checks is reduced