#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Mimilu]

I mean this:

I mean, a bunch of people are changing or going to try out new roles/jobs because they find their old one unfulfilling anymore. Is it really fair to tell them not to because they'll be "hamstringing others"? (゜。゜) ~?

[EinherjarLucian]

I mean, a bunch of people are changing or going to try out new roles/jobs because they find their old one unfulfilling anymore. Is it really fair to tell them not to because they'll be "hamstringing others"? (゜。゜) ~?

If that was the reason (wanting to try something new) I'd have no problem with it.

But when the stated reason is "ruin others' enjoyment," that's a toxic position.

[TheDustyOne]

If that was the reason (wanting to try something new) I'd have no problem with it.

But when the stated reason is "ruin others' enjoyment," that's a toxic position.

While their language might be a little extreme, having many dissatisfied healers swap to a new role still leads to queue times being worse and ultimately does "ruin others' enjoyment" in the process. It's only toxic I think if people revel and enjoy it for that reason alone.

I just want Square to notice how much of a problem their healer design is that their metrics are now screaming to have it fixed.

[EinherjarLucian]

While their language might be a little extreme, having many dissatisfied healers swap to a new role still leads to queue times being worse and ultimately does "ruin others' enjoyment" in the process. It's only toxic I think if people revel and enjoy it for that reason alone.

I just want Square to notice how much of a problem their healer design is that their metrics are now screaming to have it fixed.

The difference is intent. It's attitudes like: "tanks and dps continue having fun at the cost of healers having fun"

I get it, not everyone doing this has that kind of attitude. But it certainly is off-putting.

[lilwitch]

I dont get the point of a strike if you're still going to pay yoshiP 15 bucks a month
rly halfassed

[TheDustyOne]

I dont get the point of a strike if you're still going to pay yoshiP 15 bucks a month
rly halfassed

Unsubbing only gives us -1 healer in queues while playing another role also adds +1 DPS/Tank in queues. Square is very much metric driven nowadays given their justification for removing Kaiten and how they viewed EW relics as "successful".

Unsubbing also doesn't give us the option to give feedback for why we unsubbed. For all they know it was because people didn't like something completely unrelated to healer design. I still love the game, enough to where I'm still willing to pay my sub, but I despise how healers have been designed for the past 5 years, so I'm leaving my feedback, not touching them and encouraging anyone else who feels similar to do the same.

[Naple]

Unsubbing only gives us -1 healer in queues while playing another role also adds +1 DPS/Tank in queues. Square is very much metric driven nowadays given their justification for removing Kaiten and how they viewed EW relics as "successful".

Unsubbing also doesn't give us the option to give feedback for why we unsubbed. For all they know it was because people didn't like something completely unrelated to healer design. I still love the game, enough to where I'm still willing to pay my sub, but I despise how healers have been designed for the past 5 years, so I'm leaving my feedback, not touching them and encouraging anyone else who feels similar to do the same.

I'm pretty sure SE has metrics on what jobs you played, the amount of time you spent on them, when you spent your time on them, and what kind of content you spend your time on. If they see primarily a bunch of healer mains unsub, I'm sure they can notice. Otherwise I don't know what kind of metric driven team they are.

[TheDustyOne]

I'm pretty sure SE has metrics on what jobs you played, the amount of time you spent on them, when you spent your time on them, and what kind of content you spend your time on. If they see primarily a bunch of healer mains unsub, I'm sure they can notice. Otherwise I don't know what kind of metric driven team they are.

Even still, telling people "just unsub" isn't helpful when they also play the game for other reasons besides healing. I like my house and housing, I like glamours, and I still enjoy playing RDM. MNK got reworked for EW because it was the least played melee by far, Monk mains didn't need to unsub for that, same with the current AST rework. People don't need to unsub to see the changes they want, just swap to something else and convince anyone else who feels similarly to do the same.

If anything, telling people to unsub just feels like "go away, we don't want you".

[Loggos]

If that was the reason (wanting to try something new) I'd have no problem with it.

But when the stated reason is "ruin others' enjoyment," that's a toxic position.

But not playing healer is really everything this entails. Nobody is advocating to be actively malicious and ruin other people's runs (by idk queueing and then refusing to heal or something).
The point of this thread is that the people who post here do not have fun with healers in their current form, so they plan to abandon them (and play something they enjoy instead). They just want to make it known publicly and in a concentrated manner to show the devs the state healers are in.
No other "strike" measure or action to actively disrupt other people's gaming experience has ever been discussed or promoted in here if I recall it correctly.

[EinherjarLucian]

But not playing healer is really everything this entails. Nobody is advocating to be actively malicious and ruin other people's runs (by idk queueing and then refusing to heal or something).
The point of this thread is that the people who post here do not have fun with healers in their current form, so they plan to abandon them (and play something they enjoy instead). They just want to make it known publicly and in a concentrated manner to show the devs the state healers are in.
No other "strike" measure or action to actively disrupt other people's gaming experience has ever been discussed or promoted in here if I recall it correctly.

Really? I've seen otherwise:

tanks and dps continue having fun at the cost of healers having fun.[/B]