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  1. #3981
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    aiqa's Avatar
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    Eleasaid Seraqa
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EinherjarLucian View Post
    There's a lot of satisfaction in being the party member that helps bolster everyone else and let them do the parts they find fun. I like being in a position where quick thinking can save a wipe. I enjoy supporting the tank and making sure they're comfortable doing big pulls, since everyone likes big pulls. I can be reactive when I need to, proactive from the start, and pitch in with DPS when needed since dead mobs stop dealing damage. Dead players also stop dealing damage, but that's what I'm here for.
    Fully agreed. Playing healer is the most enjoyable role in FF, when you can make a positive contribution to the team

    Quote Originally Posted by EinherjarLucian View Post
    I just still find it odd that all of this came from a video by an experienced static team running story dungeon content. Hey, I get it. Some people aren't happy.
    I would consider that more a trigger then a reason. The underlying problems were well known and had been brewing for years.

    Quote Originally Posted by EinherjarLucian View Post
    I think this "strike" isn't the most efficient way to go about getting change. You're better off trying to work with the JP players to make your voices heard.
    Over the years there have been many many many attempts to get developer focus on healer issues. Both casual and highend players spend countless hours detailing everything that was wrong with healer design in FF. Those attempts have never worked out, as far as the outside could see they were ignored. Many healers gave up on it long ago.

    Even if we get some hate now, at least this is now big enough to get noticed. If this attempt is also ignored, we can be pretty sure it was an active choice, and not just apathy over healer issues.
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  2. #3982
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    EinherjarLucian's Avatar
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    Chalyss Hearthglenne
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    As much as I am usually for the same idea that you suggest, healer feedback in the manner as you described has been grossly ignored, underplayed or given regional bias to since 5.0 (tanks to a degree too, if you ask me). Sure, the strike might actually affect queue times for those who do not wish to engage in this, but I think the joke of keeping Healers and incoming damage taken accross the whole board as is has been going on for long enough.

    I main tank and play DPS mostly as off-role; I think they should absolutely hamstring other players' enjoyment because THEIR'S (healer's) has been compromised with the changes to their damage kits and the bulk of healing/shielding additions provided to tanks and DPS. Sure, the average player may not be at fault for this, but if peaceful feedback has resulted in absolutely nothing, what other choice do they have in trying to actually get serious attention from CBU3 / Naoki Yoshida?
    I absolutely cannot agree with this. Players making other players have less of a fun time is just going to create negative feelings. It won't be because I'll experience bad queue times: I expect mine to improve greatly.

    Intending to ruin others' fun is horribly toxic. Period. It opens all healers to behavioral criticism from other players, and I'll be damned if I get lumped into a group of people openly admitting they want to ruin others' fun to prove a point.
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  3. #3983
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    Quote Originally Posted by EinherjarLucian View Post
    Intending to ruin others' fun is horribly toxic.
    Could you explain what you mean with that? What fun are people intending to ruin?
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  4. #3984
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    Quote Originally Posted by aiqa View Post
    Could you explain what you mean with that? What fun are people intending to ruin?
    I mean this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    I think they should absolutely hamstring other players' enjoyment
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  5. #3985
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    I wonder if all the healers on strike even do savage or ultimate content?
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  6. #3986
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    Healers

    Just Heal and be needed :sob:
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  7. #3987
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    Wondrous Waifu
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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoKirito View Post
    I wonder if all the healers on strike even do savage or ultimate content?
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...IVHEALERSTRIKE
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  8. #3988
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    Quote Originally Posted by EinherjarLucian View Post
    I mean this:
    So what's the alternative? Keeping up the status quo for another 3+ years? Because peaceful feedback has done squash all and tank/DPS actions, upgrades and additions have been encroaching on the healer identity ever since and despite my initial liking of all the upgrades, the overall incoming damage has NOT changed at all.

    Explain to me how it is only ruining for tanks and dps if healers actually are fed up and refuse to play healer, but it is probably A-OK if the tanks and dps continue having fun at the cost of healers having fun.

    In case this is lost on anyone, I am NOT maining healer, I'd be part of the roles AFFECTED by this strike and I am STILL for it.
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  9. #3989
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EinherjarLucian View Post
    I mean this:
    I mean, a bunch of people are changing or going to try out new roles/jobs because they find their old one unfulfilling anymore. Is it really fair to tell them not to because they'll be "hamstringing others"? (゜。゜) ~?
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  10. #3990
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 91
    I love when people bring up the "Just do ultimate!" argument because, guess what, it is no different at all.

    To prove my point, I went and found a low parse Omega Protocol clear. Low parse to show it's not an optimized farm run or something. And look!



    It's almost entirely one button! Wow!
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