#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[ty_taurus]

I worry expanding healer DPS will actually result in healers bowing out of content due to the added complexity; once healers are doing half the damage due to low damage for healing; people are going to get it twisted and so nervous healers just won't show up...or worse end up dead more often as they juggle healing with more complex damage while trying to follow mechanics. Its like adding more survivability to DPS or more things to do; one of the reasons I suspect Eye of the Dragon got changed is because so few dragoons were probably using it effectively; instead simply buffing themselves; while those that did improved raid performance dramatically.

Another possiblity is to create healers as having a "damage dealing" option and historically I've seen what happens when you do that - see Cleric stance or the term "Smizzard"

Adding more DPS tools, or simply making existing attacks usable more frequently can actually make healer DPS easier rather than harder. One of the consequences of not adding new attacks is that in order for healer potencies to stay current with content, they've upgraded and increased the potency of our filler attacks every single explansion, but this has a negative effect on healers who don't like to DPS because it adds more and more pressure on the healer to maintain a high DPS uptime, because every individual cast of Glare or Broil or whatever becomes more and more important. Let me show you with numbers how this looks.

Right now, let's say you use all you're maximizing the use of your other DPS tools: Dia, Assize, PoM, Glare IV, and Afflatus Misery. Right now, that makes up only 41.9% of your total possible DPS. The other 58.1% comes from maximizing Glare III uptime, which means no room for healing or moving. Every time you do, you lose a piece of that 58.1%.

But let's say we change PoM to a 60 second cooldown, and make it so that every tic of Dia has a 15% chance to proc a use of Glare IV outside PoM windows. Doing this increases the amount of Glare IVs we cast from 1.5 per minute to an average of 6 per minute, and that extra damage could be taken away from Glare III. We could reduce Glare III down to 260 potency with these changes, and White Mage's potency output will stay in roughly the same spot. But look at what this does to your numbers:

Glare III goes from being as much at 58.1% of your possible damage to only 36.1%. Meanwhile, if you can maintain the attacks you were already using, and simply hit Glare IV whenever it lights up, that makes up 64% of your total damage. That's over a 20% flat incease to the damage you can do before you even need to worry about spamming Glare III and maxing DPS uptime. Not only does White Mage's DPS gameplay more dynamic and less monotonous, but it allows casual healers to contribute a lot more damage with a lot less effort.

[Punslinger]

I worry expanding healer DPS will actually result in healers bowing out of content due to the added complexity; once healers are doing half the damage due to low damage for healing; people are going to get it twisted and so nervous healers just won't show up...or worse end up dead more often as they juggle healing with more complex damage while trying to follow mechanics.

This is Sylphie Fallacy #28: "If you make Healing harder, it will cause unskilled low-effort players to quit. Doesn't that make you feel guilty?"

Based on your join date, this is also Sylphie Fallacy #14: "I began playing in Endwalker, and I like Healers how they are. I don't want anything to change."

Those of us who played healers back in ARR/HW remember a time when healers didn't have eleventy free oGCD healing tools neatly synchronized to scripted raidwides and 'busters, when Benediction had a five-minute cooldown, when healers had more DoTs to juggle and had to do the Cleric Stance Dance for those DoTs to hit harder than a wet noodle, when boss auto-attacks could still crit and tanks didn't have the ungodly amounts of self-sustain they currently have, when tanks were squishier because tank stance reduced incoming damage at the cost of reducing outgoing damage, causing many tanks to run with their stance off in order to deal more damage. And during that time, newbies picked up and mastered healing just fine, content got cleared, and there was no mass exodus of lil' babby healers just because they had to press more than one button for DPS.

Also, your argument can equally be applied to the tank role. So why is it okay for tanks to have DPS rotations but not healers? Why must all four healer jobs be lobotomized for the short-bus crowd, while tank and DPS jobs are allowed to have fun? Again, neither you nor anybody else making this asinine argument have ever given an answer that wasn't just a restatement of, "Healers are all glue-huffing monkeys."

I fail to see how either of those are any different than how DF is now, honestly. I don't think their griefing is going to have nearly the same effect, plus it's targeting and blaming the wrong people. They're unhappy with SE, but feel compelled to punish their fellow players. Incredibly mature and very likely to get any valid points completely ignored.

As stated before...

Non-healers: "If you want to DPS, play a DPS."

Healers: "Okay."

Non-healers: "No, not like that!"

[Fawkes]

[DiaDeem]

Thanks for posting this.

Do I think healers need improvement? Yes
Will I be striking? No

[Colt47]

I'm probably not doing end game in dawntrail at any rate because of the game just not being that fun. Too many repetitive tasks or difficult tasks that have no real substance to them and are intentionally gated or time consuming combined with jobs that don't even have any unique quests or storylines to them post Stormblood.

[BunnyQueen]

I'm probably not doing end game in dawntrail at any rate because of the game just not being that fun. Too many repetitive tasks or difficult tasks that have no real substance to them and are intentionally gated or time consuming combined with jobs that don't even have any unique quests or storylines to them post Stormblood.

Job quests where one of my fav points of this game.

[Local_Custard]

I look forward to doing dt as a bard! Kind of sad dragoon won't have as many jumps- kind of goes against the whole theme of the job. I'll unfortunately be putting down astrologian for df. However, I might level ast with trusts (I'll need to watch guides for content beforehand because wiping in trusts is very annoying). It's pretty sad because I love playing support and being a team player. dps and tank just don't fulfill that for me. playing dps feels far removed in terms of interractions. I'm just attacking and pressing buff buttons on cooldown. well... at least I get fun gameplay with bard.

[Mostly_Raxus]

i'm with ya fellows, i too wish my dps had more than a one button healing and mitigation rotation, wheres my tbn and shake it off on my sam, and my kardia, and i dont even have a medica 2, its just not fair

stay strong brothers.

[Emilia-]

It's so silly seeing try-hards trying to make the gameplay harder. Go play Elden Ring DLC instead if you want some challenge. Or find some hardcore Korean MMO.
I simply cannot see why the devs would ever listen to you all. You're not the core of the universe just because you clear Ultimate and Savage content. Not everyone enjoys having to watch over all 4 corners of their 21:9 monitor just because someone wanted to have some more 'diversity' and 'engaging gameplay'. Not everyone have the time to train/play for 6h a day. Don't be selfish a-holes.

This thread reminds me too much of SJW of the internet where everyone becomes a racists if their skin color is not 'melanin positive'. But in this case, as soon as someone does not agree with the manifesto, becomes an enemy and a traitor to whole FFXIV community...

[Mostly_Raxus]

This thread reminds me too much of...