#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Rolder50]

"/party Hello! and thanks for joining. This macro was built in case you never used the 4-T strat.
/party Dodge Rathalos attacks as much as possible. Use CDs and skills to heal yourself and avoid using potions until phase 2.
/party Don't pull ads other than the Coeurl; let Rathalos kill them and when marked approach them to hit them.
/party We gotta decide who's going to tank Garula and who's going to mount;
/party For phase 2, stack alone in the edges (so fire puddles won't bother us) and use potions as needed.
/party If a person who ran out of potions gets marked for stack, feel free to use lb.
/party Also, before the fight begins, I'll use a buffed Shake It Off to protect us from roar."

This is a Macro for Rathalos Extreme I created back when it debuted on v4.36, released on August 2018. Literally six years ago. People using the 4 tank strategy were the fastest ones to get all the rewards. This will probably come out as rude, but this shows just how little about the game people complaining about a healer not being needed for an optimal MSQ dungeon setup know for a fact. But anyway, with how badly people usually play on pubs, you need not to worry. Healers are not an ounce more useful or useless than they've always been.

To be fair, Rathalos is a bad example because it has a whole phase where you literally cannot heal other people and have to use the potions. And that was to make it more accurate to Monster Hunter to keep it on theme.

[Rsmeers]

To be fair, Rathalos is a bad example because it has a whole phase where you literally cannot heal other people and have to use the potions. And that was to make it more accurate to Monster Hunter to keep it on theme.

If Rathalos Extreme is a bad example, then so is an under level cap MSQ dungeon. My point is if the people who are complaining about this right now knew more about the game and were long time players, they'd know it's not something new and has never really been disruptive to the gameplay loop as they're claiming it will be all of a sudden.

[Rolder50]

If Rathalos Extreme is a bad example, then so is an under level cap MSQ dungeon. My point is if the people who are complaining about this right now knew more about the game and were long time players, they'd know it's not something new and has never really been disruptive to the gameplay loop as they're claiming it will be all of a sudden.

And saying that people are only starting to complain now is disingenuous, because healers have been complaining about this since the launch of Shadowbringers. It's only now that we're getting some kind of actual traction on the issue.

Examples: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-healer-issues -Started 05-09-2020

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-play-Ultimate 02-19-2022

Etc. This is NOT something that just came up all of a sudden.

[Rsmeers]

And saying that people are only starting to complain now is disingenuous, because healers have been complaining about this since the launch of Shadowbringers. It's only now that we're getting some kind of actual traction on the issue.

Examples: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-healer-issues -Started 05-09-2020

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-play-Ultimate 02-19-2022

Etc. This is NOT something that just came up all of a sudden.

And yet, there was no such commotion when Cleric Stance or Tank stance dancing was removed from the game on Stormblood. I've never said people were not complaining about this before, I've said they're acting like it's going to become more disruptive all of a sudden. I hated when Cleric Stance was changed into an useless role action. In fact, that was precisely when I end up changing my main role to Tank back then.
I do agree that Healers could be made more fun to play on casual content. But many of the points presented are bad and the whole way this is being carried is stupid and desperately looking for any possible ways to get the "actual traction" you've mentioned.

[aiqa]

they'd know it's not something new and has never really been disruptive to the gameplay loop as they're claiming it will be all of a sudden

Nobody is claiming it's all of a sudden. The healer problems have been brewing for years. And there have been huge discussions about the healer role for years. If nothing is improved some of that discontent will eventually spill over. That will most likely happen after some trigger (in this case, the reaction to DT), but that doesn't mean the trigger was the underlying cause for the "sudden" complaints.