#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[BunnyQueen]

Actually, I've been looking at tanks and DPS another way recently, specifically how I know some who are pro-healer strike who plan on deliberately ignoring mechanics/eating as much damage as possible come Dawntrail to give the anti-strike "thanks for the instant queue" healers a hard time, lol. I mean, it's "no big deal" right? There's "nothing to complain about" right? (Alternately, you have the anti-strike tanks and DPS who want to give any unfortunate queuing pro-strikers "something engaging to do, just like you whined about".)

As well, there's also pro-strike healers who are planning on continuing to queue, but are going to do exactly what the devs demand of them: Be green DPS only, refusing to toss out a single heal because tank and DPS self-sustain is "working as intended" and if a wipe happens then "ask for more self-heals then, at least they listen to *you*".

So yeah, we've reached the point already where a unknown quantity of people are going to grief the current system because it might have better results than sitting out and pouting because as others have pointed out, that hasn't worked even once yet. Now turning the new expansions duties into a total clown fiesta... well, who knows what that could result in. Peaceful protest may just not be enough this time.

This whole situation could have been prevented if SE listened to the healer community.

[Striker44]

This whole situation could have been prevented if SE listened to the healer community.

Note: The "healer community" on the forums is not representative of the immensely larger actual "healer community" in the game. SE is listening to the huge playerbase, not the minuscule few in comparison that are the "loudest" voices.

Am I misunderstanding or are you saying devs would rather delete systems from the game rather than allowing them exist simply because some players are worse or otherwise less interested than others?

It sounds like the person you're replying to is pointing out why healing has been simplified over the years, and thus why it wouldn't make sense to go back the other way. It would likely damage the role by turning far more people off than the few it would attract.

[PercibelTheren]

Note: The "healer community" on the forums is not representative of the immensely larger actual "healer community" in the game. SE is listening to the huge playerbase, not the minuscule few in comparison that are the "loudest" voices.



It sounds like the person you're replying to is pointing out why healing has been simplified over the years, and thus why it wouldn't make sense to go back the other way. It would likely damage the role by turning far more people off than the few it would attract.

They absolutely aren't because the majority of the playerbase doesn't care enough to provide any type of feedback.

[Rolder50]

Note: The "healer community" on the forums is not representative of the immensely larger actual "healer community" in the game. SE is listening to the huge playerbase, not the minuscule few in comparison that are the "loudest" voices.



It sounds like the person you're replying to is pointing out why healing has been simplified over the years, and thus why it wouldn't make sense to go back the other way. It would likely damage the role by turning far more people off than the few it would attract.

Please, show me the proof that the majority of players love the current healer design. As for my own proof that it is the opposite, I offer the fact that this thread is getting an absolutely enormous amount of traction even now.

[ZavosEsperian]

Note: The "healer community" on the forums is not representative of the immensely larger actual "healer community" in the game. SE is listening to the huge playerbase, not the minuscule few in comparison that are the "loudest" voices.

[TaleraRistain]

Actually, I've been looking at tanks and DPS another way recently, specifically how I know some who are pro-healer strike who plan on deliberately ignoring mechanics/eating as much damage as possible come Dawntrail to give the anti-strike "thanks for the instant queue" healers a hard time, lol. I mean, it's "no big deal" right? There's "nothing to complain about" right? (Alternately, you have the anti-strike tanks and DPS who want to give any unfortunate queuing pro-strikers "something engaging to do, just like you whined about".)

As well, there's also pro-strike healers who are planning on continuing to queue, but are going to do exactly what the devs demand of them: Be green DPS only, refusing to toss out a single heal because tank and DPS self-sustain is "working as intended" and if a wipe happens then "ask for more self-heals then, at least they listen to *you*".

So yeah, we've reached the point already where a unknown quantity of people are going to grief the current system because it might have better results than sitting out and pouting because as others have pointed out, that hasn't worked even once yet. Now turning the new expansions duties into a total clown fiesta... well, who knows what that could result in. Peaceful protest may just not be enough this time.

I fail to see how either of those are any different than how DF is now, honestly. I don't think their griefing is going to have nearly the same effect, plus it's targeting and blaming the wrong people. They're unhappy with SE, but feel compelled to punish their fellow players. Incredibly mature and very likely to get any valid points completely ignored.

[Rolder50]

I fail to see how either of those are any different than how DF is now, honestly. I don't think their griefing is going to have nearly the same effect, plus it's targeting and blaming the wrong people. They're unhappy with SE, but feel compelled to punish their fellow players. Incredibly mature and very likely to get any valid points completely ignored.

So people aren't allowed to quit a role if they don't enjoy it? Neat

[TaleraRistain]

So people aren't allowed to quit a role if they don't enjoy it? Neat

Did you read what was quoted? People aren't just talking about quitting a role. They're talking about ignoring mechanics and swimming in AoEs to grief people still playing healers. Or going in as the role and not healing. It has nothing to do with people not being allowed to quit a role they don't enjoy. Being unhappy with a role is NOT a blank check to grief others.

[Hellebore_Ghrian]

They're unhappy with SE, but feel compelled to punish their fellow players. Incredibly mature and very likely to get any valid points completely ignored.

So, by you, switching job is actually punishing other players ?

In other word, you just said that anyone who's not playing healer is punishing the community.

What kind of logic is that ? But you're a main healer right ?

[Jojoya]

I fail to see how either of those are any different than how DF is now, honestly. I don't think their griefing is going to have nearly the same effect, plus it's targeting and blaming the wrong people. They're unhappy with SE, but feel compelled to punish their fellow players. Incredibly mature and very likely to get any valid points completely ignored.

The strikers aren't punishing fellow players.

They're doing what their fellow players have been doing - choosing to play a job they find fun. Healing isn't fun for them anymore so they're not going to play a healer.

There are still other healer mains like me that do find healing generally fun and we'll be sticking with it. There will be other players that don't generally main healer but they don't mind healing either. If queue times get long enough, some of them will likely switch to healer.

Remember that the attitude you display in your post is why some players refuse to play healer already. It's got nothing to do with healing design and everything to do with players who act like they're owed something by other players. We're not your servants. We're not employees of SE. We're fellow players allowed to choose what job we want to play just as you choose.