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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    LOL. And they call people in this thread drama queens.
    It's so surreal because the "call to action" of this strike is literally just "don't play healer if you don't like it", which is quite literally what people who think this thread is stupid have suggested us to do. So then if people do exactly that other people advocate they should get blacklisted.
    Can't make this up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loggos View Post
    It's so surreal because the "call to action" of this strike is literally just "don't play healer if you don't like it", which is quite literally what people who think this thread is stupid have suggested us to do. So then if people do exactly that other people advocate they should get blacklisted.
    Can't make this up.
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    I'm glad so many people are expressing how they feel about healing in FFXIV. It goes to show how passionate people are about this game. I think it'll be difficult to find the right foot forward since so many people like one suggested change, but others dislike it.

    Either way I have faith the devs will do their best to respond to people's hopes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica_VS View Post
    At this point, the situation is like:

    Striking people on this thread, Zepla to some extent

    vs.

    Almost all the other FFXIV streamers, hardcore players, most of the Japanese community, most players in-game (who are totally unaware of this or anything else that happens on the forums), WeskAlber and Xenosys and other content creators who think this is all stupid, the FFXIV subreddit, the FFXIV discord communities (besides the discord created for this thread) . . .


    I feel like this thread would have a greater impact (besides being a source of entertainment for people not on the forums) if the thread's creators and supporters reached out beyond the forums and talked about their concerns with other FFXIV media and in other FFXIV communities. Or if they would produce content of their own on YouTube, etc. Right now this thread is attracting attention, but in a negative sense. I mean, people were even talking about blacklisting everyone they saw taking part in this thread / the strike.
    Well, PCGAMER have picked up on it.
    https://www.pcgamer.com/games/final-...g-them-at-all/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica_VS View Post
    At this point, the situation is like:

    Striking people on this thread, Zepla to some extent

    vs.

    Almost all the other FFXIV streamers, hardcore players, most of the Japanese community, most players in-game (who are totally unaware of this or anything else that happens on the forums), WeskAlber and other content creators who think this is all stupid, the FFXIV subreddit, the FFXIV discord communities (besides the discord created for this thread) . . .


    I feel like this thread would have a greater impact (besides being a source of entertainment for people not on the forums) if the thread's creators and supporters reached out beyond the forums and talked about their concerns with other FFXIV media and in other FFXIV communities. Or if they would produce content of their own on YouTube, etc. Right now this thread is attracting attention, but in a negative sense. I mean, people were even talking about blacklisting everyone they saw taking part in this thread / the strike.
    honestly I think biggest attention you will get is if enough players switch to something other than healer all together (no exceptions for friends or statics). Because the only thing I can see as likely to move SQEX to do anything about it is if healer numbers on SQEX own internal metrics shows a massive drop in healers. Even then you are looking at 8.0 imo as that is when redesigns of everything are supposed to happen.

    As it is now what I see in game conversations runs along the line of "Time to dust off my healer for insta queues" or "What a bunch of whiners we are better off without them." Neither are my opinion just what I am seeing in chats in game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrany View Post
    honestly I think biggest attention you will get is if enough players switch to something other than healer all together.
    Well the low healer numbers is why they stripped healers in the first place. Maybe if this makes more people realize that healers aren't that fun to play in most content, then we'll actually get somewhere.
    That does seem to be what the devs listen to.

    might be time to actually use Trusts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GartredZW View Post
    Well the low healer numbers is why they stripped healers in the first place. Maybe if this makes more people realize that healers aren't that fun to play in most content, then we'll actually get somewhere.
    That does seem to be what the devs listen to.

    might be time to actually use Trusts.
    But... healers are fun to play. It's by far my favorite role in an MMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EinherjarLucian View Post
    But... healers are fun to play. It's by far my favorite role in an MMO.
    Out of curiosity, why do you find healers fun to play? Why is it your favorite role? Your voice deserves to be heard in this discussion too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica_VS View Post
    At this point, the situation is like:

    Striking people on this thread, Zepla to some extent

    vs.

    Almost all the other FFXIV streamers, hardcore players, most of the Japanese community, most players in-game (who are totally unaware of this or anything else that happens on the forums), WeskAlber and Xenosys and other content creators who think this is all stupid, the FFXIV subreddit, the FFXIV discord communities (besides the discord created for this thread) . . .


    I feel like this thread would have a greater impact (besides being a source of entertainment for people not on the forums) if the thread's creators and supporters reached out beyond the forums and talked about their concerns with other FFXIV media and in other FFXIV communities. Or if they would produce content of their own on YouTube, etc. Right now this thread is attracting attention, but in a negative sense. I mean, people were even talking about blacklisting everyone they saw taking part in this thread / the strike.
    The real situation (because what you've said is misinterpreting what people say or outright lying) is that healers have been complaining for years and have been ignored and now are trying to be heard. Simple as that this is not a us vs them or anything and the fact that this thread grow so fast (and all the proofs showing healer "gameplay" if it can be called that) shows that there is a problem that needs to be solved
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    Last edited by WaxSw; 06-20-2024 at 02:19 AM.
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    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

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