#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Ianmaru]

I feel a bit bad for healers, but i really dont think theres an easy fix for their plight because to keep them busier would mean more pressure on them, and honestly its probably only the actually good ones in highend content who are really complaining.

i rarely run highend content, i live in the normal roulette list, and in there i get paired with alot of healers who are barely even decent, sure theyre geared up and look the part but they will get us all killed somehow, usually because of panic since something happened that needed true healer skill.

the devs know the metrics and i would put money on them seeing that the "average" healer is probably terrible, its why all the dps are hyper mobile now with a panic heal and the tanks can all take brutal beatings. I would love to see some random content sneak in that needs healers to be on point, just to see if they are really up to snuff.

not disagreeing but this definitely proves that the Hall of Novice fails and needs to be updated. They really need to add ingame tutorial that teaches the players the importance of keep GCD rolling and how to do their roles optimally.

[ZephyrMenodora]

I feel a bit bad for healers, but i really dont think theres an easy fix for their plight because to keep them busier would mean more pressure on them, and honestly its probably only the actually good ones in highend content who are really complaining.

i rarely run highend content, i live in the normal roulette list, and in there i get paired with alot of healers who are barely even decent, sure theyre geared up and look the part but they will get us all killed somehow, usually because of panic since something happened that needed true healer skill.

the devs know the metrics and i would put money on them seeing that the "average" healer is probably terrible, its why all the dps are hyper mobile now with a panic heal and the tanks can all take brutal beatings. I would love to see some random content sneak in that needs healers to be on point, just to see if they are really up to snuff.

Healers should never been put in a situation where they had no pressure on them in most content to begin with.

This may result in some healing curve for some healers, but once they step up I'm sure they will find their gameplay more thrilling and rewarding.

[Wyti]

To be honest, we are never going to have a consensus. We have different generations of healers. Some of us come from older MMOs where 90% of our time was healing, and that's what we enjoyed. Others joined XIV in an era where healing was already about 20% of the job, and that is what they grew up with and enjoy. Many modern MMOs just abandoned the trinity and everyone is a DPS, adding to the number of people who don't see the point of more and more healing in general.

We are not going to have a consensus, but I think they need to pick one solution and roll with it.
It could be either going the full healer route, or the green dps one. Different people would like either, but at least we will get a more interesting gameplay than what we currently have regardless of their choice.

[ZephyrMenodora]

We are not going to have a consensus, but I think they need to pick one solution and roll with it.
It could be either going the full healer route, or the green dps one. Different people would like either, but at least we will get a more interesting gameplay than what we currently have regardless of their choice.

Honestly I think doing this risks some healers just abandoning the movement, especially if the direction chosen favors a direction they disagree with.

I personally prefer full healer, but I'd actually be happy at 50/50 where I have to heal more than I do today, and have more interesting things to do other than press glare.

[Vhoxz]

Everyone saw this coming, right? a large part of the community has been asking to make the game easier with every expansion. In every expansion, it's the same: "The game is too hard; please make it easier so we don't have to press buttons."
And for many expansions, I and others like me have been critical of that large part of the community for wanting to make the game braindead. They started by gutting healer DPS rotations but not increasing healing difficulty, leading to a boring experience in dungeons, normal raids,... Than they gave every tank so much sustain because warriors had so much, instead of gutting tank sustain like they should have done, and it still wasn't enough. Clearing dungeons without healers is nothing new; we've done it for years. I'm shocked people only now react to this because someone finally showed the public.
But make no mistake, I don't blame Square Enix for this. I blame the community that cried to make the game easier—expansion after expansion, patch after patch.
And healers aren't the only ones suffering from this. I used to love tanking. But they got rid of stance-dancing, threat is a joke, now we have that giant red marker every time a tank buster is coming, because I guess it's too hard to read the name of an ability. and learning what's a tankbuster and what's not.

So now this strike... I get it, but I don't quite agree with it. I'm sure some of the people here wanted the game to get easier at some point so you're partially to blame for this if you did. They didn't make the game easy for the sake of making it easy. They made it easy because a large part of the more casual audience asked them to make it easier. So in the end, the players, share at least as much blame as the developers.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Everyone saw this coming, right? a large part of the community has been asking to make the game easier with every expansion. In every expansion, it's the same: "The game is too hard; please make it easier so we don't have to press buttons."
And for many expansions, I and others like me have been critical of that large part of the community for wanting to make the game braindead. They started by gutting healer DPS rotations but not increasing healing difficulty, leading to a boring experience in dungeons, normal raids,... Than they gave every tank so much sustain because warriors had so much, instead of gutting tank sustain like they should have done, and it still wasn't enough. Clearing dungeons without healers is nothing new; we've done it for years. I'm shocked people only now react to this because someone finally showed the public.
But make no mistake, I don't blame Square Enix for this. I blame the community that cried to make the game easier—expansion after expansion, patch after patch.
And healers aren't the only ones suffering from this. I used to love tanking. But they got rid of stance-dancing, threat is a joke, now we have that giant red marker every time a tank buster is coming, because I guess it's too hard to read the name of an ability. and learning what's a tankbuster and what's not.

So now this strike... I get it, but I don't quite agree with it. I'm sure some of the people here wanted the game to get easier at some point so you're partially to blame for this if you did. They didn't make the game easy for the sake of making it easy. They made it easy because a large part of the more casual audience asked them to make it easier. So in the end, the players, share at least as much blame as the developers.

This is part of the problem in general, and even some people in this thread don't think the game should have any increased pressure/difficulty for healers. But we are at the point where they have none at all in most content.

Increased difficulty effects everyone, but I think mostly healers because without any difficulty there is almost nothing to heal. So I'm for raising the bar a bit, especially in DT where we have people levels 90 to 100 who should be equipped to face more challenge by then.

[Voidmage]

MrHappy's Monday w/ MrHappy video first two questions were healer issue/strike related, and his takes... I mean I'm not participating in the healer strike, but even I'm not THAT dismissive of the issues. Just more of the same: 'We don't have enough info' and 'Oh, it's only a few people' arguments.

He has been very dismissive of other opinions lately. I used to watch him in the past but not anymore. Far too much "told you so" and so on.
It was the same with the blm changes were he more or less just said "deal with it" in a dismissive tone.
Not to deny his experience with the game, far more then I have but... oh well thats content creators for you.

The funny thing is. Xeno has become less toxic then in the past and is far more on the side of midcore playrs now. He at least says if he thinks stuff is stupid.

How will he get on the media tour list next time if he doesn't parrot the same vein of PR speak like YoshiP?

Its why the idea of only feedback making it to devs being from content creators is a slippery slope , you never know when they'll turn shill just to keep staying on that list. Its just business.

Tbf. Zepla was also invited and she was one of the first with critique about Endwalker.
I don't think Yoshida is against critisism as long as it's in a good and honest tone.

[Silver-Strider]

Everyone saw this coming, right? a large part of the community has been asking to make the game easier with every expansion. In every expansion, it's the same: "The game is too hard; please make it easier so we don't have to press buttons."
And for many expansions, I and others like me have been critical of that large part of the community for wanting to make the game braindead. They started by gutting healer DPS rotations but not increasing healing difficulty, leading to a boring experience in dungeons, normal raids,... Than they gave every tank so much sustain because warriors had so much, instead of gutting tank sustain like they should have done, and it still wasn't enough. Clearing dungeons without healers is nothing new; we've done it for years. I'm shocked people only now react to this because someone finally showed the public.
But make no mistake, I don't blame Square Enix for this. I blame the community that cried to make the game easier—expansion after expansion, patch after patch.
And healers aren't the only ones suffering from this. I used to love tanking. But they got rid of stance-dancing, threat is a joke, now we have that giant red marker every time a tank buster is coming, because I guess it's too hard to read the name of an ability. and learning what's a tankbuster and what's not.

So now this strike... I get it, but I don't quite agree with it. I'm sure some of the people here wanted the game to get easier at some point so you're partially to blame for this if you did. They didn't make the game easy for the sake of making it easy. They made it easy because a large part of the more casual audience asked them to make it easier. So in the end, the players, share at least as much blame as the developers.

Several people have already started this and not one can bring a citation of it.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Several people have already started this and not one can bring a citation of it.

I don't remember anyone asking for the game to be easier, but now that it is....we have a certain part of the player base who likes it this way. (Not me, by the way - I think all levels of gameplay should be engaging).

[lulunami]

Do not watch MrHappy videos. He is a very lazy content creator with bad editing that results in videos that take 30 minutes to explain one boss mechanic.

He has been popularizing bad strats his whole career like stacking everyone behind the boss for Titan (Hard Mode). Instead of taking one puddle attack and surviving because of server lag, you take 7 puddle attacks and get incapacitated.

I will always remember MrHappy being very disrespectful to other players at NA Fanfest the one year I went. Reconsider the type of content creators you support.