They Should Add An Official Damage Meter With One Condition

[LittleImp]

And with that you've already lost the crux of your argument.

You just acted as an example of the very toxic behavior you assert doesn't exist in WoW or other MMO's. When someone disagreed with you, you immediately ran to their FFLogs to use that to discredit them. You're SERIOUSLY trying to argue that people wouldn't be toxic about other people's DPS numbers when you're toxic over someone disagreeing with you over it?

We're done here.

There's an enormous difference between using someone's lack of credentials to discredit an argument that is directly related to said credentials, and bullying someone in a leveling roulette.

[VerdeLuck]

There's an enormous difference between using someone's lack of credentials to discredit an argument that is directly related to said credentials, and bullying someone in a leveling roulette.

You don't need credentials to argue against having DPS meters in content.
Besides, your arguments that people who don't like parsing and don't parse have bad parses are pretty strange. Of course they don't have logs, or the few logs they have are spotty, because they don't parse. They're not posting anything to sites, all you see are random smatterings of a fraction of their clears that someone else posted.

Also, why is looking up someone's stats in a conversation about stats wrong? Especially when they make statements like "It's not needed"

You're proving the counter argument true, that if logs are readily available, they will be used as a weapon against other players as a way to shame them and try to make them shut up, not to get people to improve.
If you can't even handle the little bit we have now on the forums, how are you supposed to be trusted to not abuse more readily available information?

[Klytania]

You don't need credentials to argue against having DPS meters in content.
Besides, your arguments that people who don't like parsing and don't parse have bad parses are pretty strange. Of course they don't have logs, or the few logs they have are spotty, because they don't parse. They're not posting anything to sites, all you see are random smatterings of a fraction of their clears that someone else posted.

That's the point though. "I don't even use this but you don't need it" is an indefensible position. And yet that's what so many are doing. Weird.

[VerdeLuck]

That's the point though. "I don't even use this but you don't need it" is an indefensible position. And yet that's what so many are doing. Weird.

No one is coming for your ACT, but it is definitely not needed to clear Extremes, Savages, or even Ultimates and shouldn't be seen as necessary. Everything is able to be completed with just the vanilla tools, it's been tested extensively by developers before it goes out the door.

[Klytania]

No one is coming for your ACT, but it is definitely not needed to clear Extremes, Savages, or even Ultimates and shouldn't be seen as necessary. Everything is able to be completed with just the vanilla tools, it's been tested extensively by developers before it goes out the door.

Only because you can't. If there was a way to actually get rid of it, you'd vote for it.