They Should Add An Official Damage Meter With One Condition

[FoxyAreku]

Yeah most people do not care as long as things die as a reasonable pace, and you are doing mechanics.
On 14, JP chooses the nuclear option and just disbands the entire party if one person is slacking. I don't know about EU, but NA PF is accommodating to a fault.

I agree with you. A parser would definitely fix the need for a nuclear option too. Sucks for the person slacking sure, but maybe they shouldn't be in tough content if their dps is low to the point a clear wasn't possible in the first place?

Hate how people just don't seem to understand that this game has dps checks and if they can't meet those dps checks then they don't deserve to be carried. They can improve just like everyone else.

[Elesh]

That's the whole reason you need other data to compare. You don't know your 4k dps is bad unless you know people in the same job, with similar gear, are doing 8k.

I mean, that's why aggregating sites and analysis tools are needed. Yes. But that shouldn't be visible in game. In game you only need to see your own personal numbers. So you can compare against yourself to see if you're improving, etc.

Out of game, I have no issues with data aggregation or analysis sites.

[Hoodcat]

thats one of the bigger points, i used 46k dps requirement for a fight currently in game. if the group is doing 42k to 38k are you going to waste 6 more hours of your life just to be nice? or are you going to be like, hey..... where can we pick up the extra dps?

you can still be nice and tell someone, they aint ready.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

you can still be nice and tell someone, they aint ready.

Nah, it's nicer to just kick silently and let them ruminate over what they've done.

/s

[LisSquid]

Nah, it's nicer to just kick silently and let them ruminate over what they've done.

/s

I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. I want to believe some people try, but they just don't know how bad their performance is. I've been in so many groups over the years that disbands (then secretly reforms) to silently cut someone out. That is way, way more toxic imho.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. I want to believe some people try, but they just don't know how bad their performance is. I've been in so many groups over the years that disbands (then secretly reforms) to silently cut someone out. That is way, way more toxic imho.

Believe me, that would be my first course of action too.

I like to see people try, learn, grow, and improve. If I could, I want to encourage them too. I want to guide when I can. It was one of my foolishly idealistic goal when I first took upon the meme that is mentor status. I mean, it couldn't be any worse than simple headbutts a few times, right? Except it actually gets far worse than that and above all, it left a bad taste. It's not what I paid the subs for; dealing with passive aggressions. Without hard evidence it's harder to pin down where things actually gone wrong to craft a solution & it's easy to be refuted by plain denial without basis.

In the end, avoiding confrontation is still the safest bet than to risk the loss of sanity if it really comes down to that.

[Maxilor]

Nah, it's nicer to just kick silently and let them ruminate over what they've done.

/s

[Lihtleita]

would it be possible to have some version of the pvp postgame scoreboard for pve
listing dps, amount healed, damage taken, deaths etc; would be helpful after each encounter for people who are learning

[Sebazy]

I'll never quite understand the train of thought that by adding in a parser, SE would somehow automatically be removing their exceptionally hard stance towards abusive behaviour of any sort in chat.

SE could readily add an ingame feature with a very specific warning not to abuse it and use it as means to attack other players with a clear line in the sand given by GMs as to what is and isn't acceptable. Sure, you might see the occasional person being toxic with it at first but then if they promptly eat a ban for it, aren't we all winning in the long term? If swinging around numbers is treated in the same manner as it is right now, it's certainly not going to get worse.

[Klytania]

I'll never quite understand the train of thought that by adding in a parser, SE would somehow automatically be removing their exceptionally hard stance towards abusive behaviour of any sort in chat.

SE could readily add an ingame feature with a very specific warning not to abuse it and use it as means to attack other players with a clear line in the sand given by GMs as to what is and isn't acceptable. Sure, you might see the occasional person being toxic with it at first but then if they promptly eat a ban for it, aren't we all winning in the long term? If swinging around numbers is treated in the same manner as it is right now, it's certainly not going to get worse.

Exactly. It's like what they did with the Adventure plates. They already had language in the TOS that covered people making extra-lewd plates. A damage parser would literally be no different.