They Should Add An Official Damage Meter With One Condition

[SamSmoot]

Make it so you can only see your damage relative the average of everyone else in the group who is within 5 item levels of you.

Display the data only after the group is disbanded. Perhaps offer some analysis or suggestions to the player of they're not using some ability, or not in the correct sequence. Unfortunately, solo rating is only useful for DPS.

When I ran a meter in WoW, I usually didn't review the data until the event was over anyway, since it took too much time to analyze the details during the run. It did have a simple bar graph showing everyone's performance, but I felt it was useless comparing myself to others of different class / item level, which is why a built-in meter should only compare with others of very similar item level. (Same class only is impractical..)

I suppose I could simply stop caring about my performance and stand back, casting one ranged ability over and over, since I don't know if it makes a difference or not.

[DarkPursuer]

Catboy in that context is pseudo-racial, because the player (me) is not a catboy. No more than you are a blond, baseball cap wearing Ala Mhigan.

Pseudo-sexual slur was in reference to poster's use of the term "fursuit" for a different poster who's avatar is a Hrothgar ... figure it out yourself.

It'd be real funny if Skiros dropped a pic of himself and he turned out to look just like his avatar.

[Hoodcat]

im confused on what you mean, my behavior or the mega giga chad?

[torrijas]

I don't personally care either way as I'm a casual player, but what would adding an official damage meter even change? People who do high-end content already have other ways of monitoring their DPS, so they don't really need it. And if you think casuals seeing how bad they are would encourage them to become better, you're sadly mistaken. If bad casuals were interested in improving, there's nothing stopping them; there are plenty of guides out there to help one become a better player. If they cared, they would have consulted them long ago. Seeing how bad their numbers are won't change anything.

Again, I don't care either way. I'm mostly just confused, because the damage meters are already out there, and whether they're official or not won't change a thing. It seems to me that really what some people want is for casuals to be confronted with their low numbers and then feel bad about them. I'm not going to judge anyone if that's what they want, but if that's the case I wish they would just come out and say it, since I don't really think anyone is under the delusion that "a HEALER's role is to HEAL >!!!" Andy over here is magically going to become competent just because the game told him he doesn't know how to press his buttons.

[Semirhage]

I don't personally care either way as I'm a casual player, but what would adding an official damage meter even change? People who do high-end content already have other ways of monitoring their DPS, so they don't really need it.

Some streamer got banned for having it. Not harassing anyone with it. Just having it. 5chan is babyraging that Japan didn't get world first in Ultimate, so they're reporting ACT usage on stream like a bunch of self-righteous crusaders, and Square is bending to their war cries because it's *technically* against the TOS. Yoshi has WATCHED streams with ACT overlays up. It wasn't a problem up to this point.

And now the toxic casuals are coming out of the woodwork, crowing that ACT has "always" been against the TOS, that anyone punished for streaming it "deserves" it, and all manner of stupid babble. Taking the previous "we'll have our stat tracking over here, you have your casual no-numbers gameplay over there" silent truce and chucking it out the window, going full mask-off and showing us all what they actually think. It's not the harassment they have a problem with. It's other people using the tool at all that gets their jimmies rustled.

Toxic casuals can't mind their own beeswax, and are weaponizing the TOS. May as well make a parser official then, if they're going to be so goddamn childish about it.

[Hoodcat]

If they dont know they are doing sub par or terrible then they dont know they need to improve.

You guys are assuming they will feel bad seeing these numbers, if i saw these numbers i would wonder what i need to do better, bc i know im better than that. The biggest argument for this i see is "you will make them feel bad"
wich is stupid and your just keeping grown adults ignorant. Might as well have a police state.

Why not get rid of the sprout icon? shows newb, does it make him feel bad hes a newb? No, he dosnt know any better and it advertises to the rest of the party, hey this guys a newb. Gatekeeping knowledge from people is all your doing, there is always going to be a sperg or villian of a story. a jerk is gana be a jerk regardless of what tools they have access too or dont.

[Elesh]

Just add a personal damage meter that players can turn on in the UI. You only see your own damage. If you really want, you can export the log to submit to tracking sites so people can have their e-peening and their analysis tools.

But the game does need some supported means for players to gauge their own personal performance. Not that of anyone else. Just them.

[LisSquid]

Just add a personal damage meter that players can turn on in the UI. You only see your own damage. If you really want, you can export the log to submit to tracking sites so people can have their e-peening and their analysis tools.

But the game does need some supported means for players to gauge their own personal performance. Not that of anyone else. Just them.

That's the whole reason you need other data to compare. You don't know your 4k dps is bad unless you know people in the same job, with similar gear, are doing 8k.

You can get kicked if your dps is low, but you don't 'link dps to join a group'. There's not even a way to do that, especially if you haven't been in the fight before.
The former is avoided by...well, not being bad at your job.

This would also only apply to savage content. No one cares if you're bad in easy mode content, parser or not.

Yeah most people do not care as long as things die as a reasonable pace, and you are doing mechanics.
On 14, JP chooses the nuclear option and just disbands the entire party if one person is slacking. I don't know about EU, but NA PF is accommodating to a fault.