DPS who pull mobs

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Not going to bother beyond this post, since you seem set in your view, no matter how unrealistic.

Aoeing is a basic expectation, as such abilities are there to be used, and if someone weren't using aoe on groups, I would question that. Wall to wall (W2W from here on)is not "basic", it's something a rather vocal portion of the NA population decided should be. Not pulling W2W doesn't result in some 40 days and 40 nights scenario you seem to be envisioning. Again, you're thinking in extremes - not W2Wing doesn't mean one singular foe at a time. A tank pulling 2 packs isn't going to lead to a run taking 40+ minutes, and if you think anything slightly higher than 14-15 min is sluggish, it sounds like you need to take a step back and reevaluate some things, because good grief. I enjoy a smooth, fast run as much as the next person, but you're being ridiculous here, and your time isn't any more valuable than anyone elses'.

To reiterate: you want those tomes fast? Form a custom party. Roulette doesn't revolve around you, or any other single person.



No, because of this:



That right there is why. You joined a roulette, you're expected to deal with what you get. You can't expect people to conform to what you want because you think it should be done a certain way. If I queue as dps and the tank/healer want to take it slow, I'm cool with it. They wanna go fast? Cool. I'm gonna push my buttons, and that's that.

So if a group wants to go fast it is fine to pull for them then? Thus putting someone who for outside reasons cannot play at such a level?

Generally when someone pulls for the tank and everyone expect the tank take part that is a sign the group wants to go faster. It is rare to run into situations where healer or dps pull more then what a tank candle handle just due to how easy it is for tanks to perform their role.

That mindset of the party finder does not fly if you get a group that wants to go fast but someone wants to go slower they could also make a PF. That is the point I was getting at the argument can be made from the other side it just depends who the majority in the group up. The comment you quoted just highlights that point.

Like it or not a DPS can dictate the pace of a group. If I have good dps and my healer wants to do small pulls I will still do large pulls because I trust my dps can burn the mobs before I run out or cooldowns and mana.

It is a team effort majority dictate the pace not a single role. Players that want to be the sole person to dictate pace should just create a PF. You are right using a roulette means conforming to what you get or leave. For the most part though like it or not most groups prefer larger pulls that is the standard especially at the higher levels.

That is why whatever role I play and someone pulls small I will run ahead and pull extra if the tank pulls aggro off me I accept that is acknowledgement that it is okay if not then I will keep pulling as much is i can handle with my own cooldowns until the 5 min mark and will start a vote. If it passes cool if not i will just leave. This goes for when I play a tank healer or dps.

Granted if we wipe I will own up to it though something has to go horribly wrong to wipe just over a large pull. Either a gear issue or player skill issue.