DPS who pull mobs

[Tommara]

As I've said many times before in my responses, I don't care about speed of the run.

[Tommara]

If the tank refuses to grab aggro from someone and a wipe happens because of it, the wipe will be on the tank, not whoever pulled.
If the tank grabs aggro, and everyone does their job, but a wipe still happens, only then will it be on whoever pulled.

Since you don't wanna read the whole thread:

A DPS pulling will be beneficial for the speed of the run. Damage starts going out sooner = mobs will die sooner = run will be faster.
Additionally a healer or DPS taking damage, as long as the tank grabs the aggro, will actually be nothing more than extra mitigation for the tank, their health bars can be perceived as a shield (that, at least, shouldn't be broken).
It means less damage on the tank the healer will have to heal, since it's pointless for the healer to heal themselves or a DPS during a pull that isn't taking free damage, and therefore less straining on everyone's resources, and more GCDs for the healer to spend on DPSing. And an extra arm's length, that ranged DPS with aggro could provide, on top of their own health bar, is a good chunk of mitigation.

Though the "you pull you tank" players usually lose their mind when a DPS or the healer just happens to be ahead of them and hit a pack they we're intending to hit anyways a GCD or two before that.
And apparently, managing your sprint better than the tank is punishable by death penalty to them.

I don't think that asking for the tank grab aggro, considering that they are, you know, the tank, and that hitting one or two AOEs is enough to get aggro, is an absurd request, regardless of the situation.

As I've said many times before, I don't care about speed of the runs.

[ZedxKayn]

As I've said many times before in my responses, I don't care about speed of the run.

"Why should I do that?"

"Here is why"

"Don't care"

[Tommara]

"Why should I do that?"

"Here is why"

"Don't care"

yeah, if I cared, I'd play a tank or healer.

Go figure.

[ZedxKayn]

yeah, if I cared, I'd play a tank or healer.

Go figure.

So why did you ask?
No one is forcing you to pull first as a DPS.

Just asking for the tanks to do their damn job and not let someone die because they were faster than them, and saying that using Arm's Length if a ranged DPS runs ahead will be helpful for literally everyone involved.

[Tommara]

So why did you ask?
No one is forcing you to pull first as a DPS.

Just asking for the tanks to do their damn job and not let someone die because they were faster than them, and telling that using Arm's Length if a ranged DPS runs ahead will be helpful for literally everyone involved.

Because the title of OP is "DPS who pull mobs".

I didn't understand that to mean that only those who thought that a good thing were allowed to post. Or that rhetorical responses were not allowed.

[ZedxKayn]

Because the title of OP is "DPS who pull mobs".

I didn't understand that to mean that only those who thought that a good thing were allowed to post.

Disingenuous. You asked why you should do that, I told you why it's beneficial, and you said that you didn't care because you didn't like the answer.

[Tommara]

Disingenuous. You asked why you should do that, I told you why it's beneficial, and you said that you didn't care because you didn't like the answer.

No, I said at the get go that I didn't care about speed of the runs.

Edited Note: and that's all that your responses so far has been about.

[ZedxKayn]

No, I said at the get go that I didn't care about speed of the runs.

Re-read yourself. You never once stated that you didn't care about speed, let alone "many times".
If you ask "why should I do x or y" and just say "don't care" when you get an answer, you obviously weren't interested in knowing why in the first place.

[Tommara]

As I've said many times before in my responses, I don't care about speed of the run.

Re-read yourself. You never once stated that you didn't care about speed, let alone "many times".
If you ask "why should I do x or y" and just say "don't care" when you get an answer, you obviously weren't interested in knowing why in the first place.

See, for example, https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ll-mobs/page28