Quote Originally Posted by Gruntler View Post
*snip* (Re: Ultimates)
When you look at FFlogs performance,
It really isn't. RDM is paying too much for what it brings. It's that simple. It just needs a liiiiitle bit more. Not the amount Summoner got, but... it's almost there. Fix that, the job will be good.
With all due respect here Gruntler even on FFLogs (whch I still only take with a grain of salt for obvious reasons at this point, and have not changed my mind on) the RDM is still higher that a lot of the other DPS jobs in there.

So if the Red Mage is being excluded, it is not due to pure DPS unless a lot of other jobs are, because RDM brings a lot of other utilities like Embolden a lot of those other jobs do not on top of that DPS.

So if this is a problem, it is not Red Mage specific.