5.0 Job change wishlist

[Miste]

Please actually play a command mission before trying to explain how they work, because clearly you don't. The healers in the command missions have Medica II at ALL levels. Rather the command missions illustrate how the developers think players should be healing

Please actually read my post.

You think I haven't done command missions? I'd like to know where you got that idea from? Just because I raid you assume I don't do other content? You made an incorrect assumption.

I do every single piece of content in this game except for Ultimate...and well Lord of Verminion, but you'd be hard pressed to find someone who did do that anyway.

Where did I say that the command mission healers don't have access to Medica II below level 50?

Point it out in my post.

Where did I say it?

I can wait......oh....it's not there.... Want to know why? Because I've done command missions and I know they can use it pre-50, but that fact had nothing to do with my point. Fancy that...

But, you know I assumed you would do this. You can't find any flaw in what I countered you with so you go off on things I never said or have nothing to do with anything like what level the CNJ in command missions can use Medica II. Can you explain what relevance that has?

I'd like you to show me a video of a command mission CNJ using Assize, Regen, Asylum, Bene, Plenary, or Tetra. What level they use Medica II at has nothing to do with my point. My point was that a CONJURER doesn't have access to any of these spells/abilities that I listed since they are all WHM ones.

So, no, command missions are definitely not illustrating how a WHM should heal...since it is a CNJ and not even a WHM. This is really obvious.

A CNJ is not a WHM and using a CNJ healing kit to say that WHM should heal like that is beyond ridiculous. A CNJ only has half the spells and abilities that a WHM has.

Not to mention your whole argument started about lillies and CNJ doesn't even have lillies. So seriously what were you expecting here?

You just can't admit when you are wrong.

Because the not-nice people on the forum don't want to have a discussion, they want a fight, and when presented with information that challenges their world view, the put their fingers in their ears and instead throw insults instead.

Are you sure you aren't projecting? This sounds like you are talking about yourself as well.

You don't usually throw insults, but you sure know how to work the passive aggressive.

Also before you volunteer to throw me in there too, I am totally fine with admitting I am passive aggressive sometimes.....to people who do it to me first and I have a great memory. I am of the belief that you don't dish out passive aggressiveness if you are afraid of getting some back at you.

Because that is how SE and Yoshi-P has designed the healing. You don't throw away half your toolkit when you turn level 50. Look at the kind of comments people keep snarking out. "Oh the lily system is useless, because nobody uses cure" , and when I say I do, you're like "then you suck" rather than "oh well how do you get past X, when I have to spam so many HoT's and oCD's to get past it?"

Never said you throw it away, simply there are better ways to play healers in which you do your best to optimize in a way to avoid overhealing and also avoid using GCD heals. The top healers AVOID overhealing which is why you showed already you don't understand it since you claim raid healer meta is to "overheal needlessly"

I don't condone anyone telling someone else that they suck, but it is a fact that you are playing a less optimized way if you rely on Cure I/II instead of the other tools you have. It's just a fact about how the game is designed. That's it. Obviously there are bad ways to convey this.

If you don't want to optimize? That's fine. Since you don't do savage/ultimate where it is expected.

I really hope you are not accusing ME of saying you suck, because if you look at my post I did not say that anywhere.

The person who first posted about lilies in this thread, also posts nothing but "the lilies suck" in every post they make, so they want the job to change to appease a small portion of players who aren't playing the job correctly in the first place.

Exiled just really wants things for WHM and, yeah, she is maybe a bit too enthusiastic with how much she posts it, but she can post in here with her job change wishes if she wants. So too bad? Just because you complain that she wants to change lillies do you really think she'll stop for you? She can post what she wants. /shrug

Oh, I know what the raid healer meta is, is the meta bad players learn from raiders and then try to use on every piece of content because it gives them the max deeps. s/ , you know on content that isn't bloody contest. The same players complain about having nothing to do because they are making it so they have nothing to do. The same players complain about content when it's not even 3 days old because they already sucked the fun out of it with a parser.

Your bias is showing....


Also you should REALLY read what Saito said and think on it. He posted a very thorough post before I could finish this one.