Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[Gemina]

I have found repose useful for solo content, but could still live without it. It has been totally useless in 8-man, and 4-man I only use it if I have hate on a mob no one is picking up. Even then, sometimes a one on one battle with a pesky mob while taking care of the group can be fun, if you can forgive the extra gcds you'll be spending. Still best to sleep it, and spam /poke until someone gets the hint

Anywho, I echo the others about the usefulness of this skill. Put it in the roles section and give us back esuna!

[Verdan]

BLMs still have sleep and the trait that makes it AoE.

[Cynfael]

Not really, actually... well at least in the old level 50 "endgame" stuff. If you had a blm in the party it used to be a speed running tactic to gather mobs, run to the boss wall, sleepga then pull the boss and gate them outside the wall. Then they started adding key drops in some dungeons like Brayflox HM comes to mind, now 60+ you have the walls where you have to kill everything before you proceed so... yeah... sleep's pretty useless. Funny thing is I am pretty sure BLMs still have sleep too. =p

Now that you mention it, I do remember that exploit. Funny how it didn't take them long to address that minor cheat, but they still haven't come up with PvE mechanics that give you a legitimate use for sleeping things.

One MMO I used to play made sleep valuable for interrupting devastating, long-casting skills. In this game it's almost always stun for that, sometimes silence, but I don't see why sleep has to be 100% ineffective. Even if it slept high-level targets for only a second, it would have some use but not be mandatory so as to force the inclusion of a WHM or BLM.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

had the bright idea of removing the damage component from Fluid Aura.

So many people act like WHM is the only job that lost damaging oGCDs. It's absolutely boggling to me that people have to be reminded several dozen times...

To recap, ALL DAMAGING CC HAS LOST ITS DAMAGE COMPONENT.

[Reiryuu]

To recap, ALL DAMAGING CC HAS LOST ITS DAMAGE COMPONENT.

In a game where CC is unimportant and knockbacks are especially undesirable due to how 99.9% of the players play the game, so why not just remove the ability entirely? See our point?

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

I wasn't aware you had already played the expansion. Please, do tell me how it's worked? One would think that because they removed damage from all CC, it would've had far greater importance. Was the Omega raid that awesome? Oh! And what about Ivalice?? Please tell me there were viera NPCs!

If the sarcasm flies over your head, allow me to point out that with the fairly heavily hinted nature of CC being of greater import, my opinions on repose/sleep staying are decidedly neutral.

Just in case my sarcasm didn't drive my point home enough!

[Fawkes]

To recap, ALL DAMAGING CC HAS LOST ITS DAMAGE COMPONENT.

I'm still seeing damage and CC on existing things like shield bash/spineshatter dive and blizzard 2/tri-bind/freeze. It's only the new role abilities that seem to not have damage. Fluid Aura isn't a new role ability.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

I'm still seeing damage and CC on existing things like shield bash/spineshatter dive and blizzard 2/tri-bind/freeze. It's only the new role abilities that seem to not have damage. Fluid Aura isn't a new role ability.

Blank. Repelling shot. Head graze. Blunt arrow. Suppressing fire. Fluid Aura. All of these skills are CC. All of these, and more, have lost their damage component. Trying to whine WHM is the only one won't work. They aren't the only one that lost damaging CC.

[Fawkes]

Blank. Repelling shot. Head graze. Blunt arrow. Suppressing fire. Fluid Aura. All of these skills are CC. All of these, and more, have lost their damage component. Trying to whine WHM is the only one won't work. They aren't the only one that lost damaging CC.

That doesn't make it cool, though. It's still fine to complain that a skill used only for its damage lost its damage. Bards can and should complain about repelling shot. I mean it's called a shot but it doesn't shoot the enemy anymore, do they load themselves into the bow to fly backwards now?

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

That doesn't make it cool, though. It's still fine to complain that a skill used only for its damage lost its damage. Bards can and should complain about repelling shot. I mean it's called a shot but it doesn't shoot the enemy anymore, do they load themselves into the bow to fly backwards now?

Blank is unloading a shot gun shell right into the target stomach. Head graze is a bloody head shot. So is suppressing fire. So? All this means is that CC is likely going to actually matter instead of just being boring rotation filler. As a BRD/MCH/NIN main, I'm happy for the opportunity!