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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by simiii View Post
    Idk what your talking about when you say upload a log.


    And how would you use fluid and sleep? You already said sleep is great for POTD and that was probably one dumbest things you could come back with. Also I think I play healer just fine. Omega savage almost killed 1st boss in a pug group(30%) with my sch friend who lets me solo heal most the fight
    With less then a hr of actually being in the dungeon(old static left server I didn\\'t want to leave)

    Also just saying even if you did tell me how post logs (btw im on ps4) I doubt I\\'d want to go out my way farm a primal fight 10 times just for your sake. If se cares enough about it they can look it up I\\'m sure they got the time.
    ....you don't even realize it wasn't even me who made the comment that sleep is great for PotD.

    Here's the comment, BTW

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphyna View Post
    It's repose... you know, a move that is a LIFESAVER in POTD.
    So now you've just proven you don't pay attention either. *Slowly claps*

    I think I can safely say that I rest my case.



    Seriously, let's have a better discussion when you can contribute something serious to the discussion that isn't anecdotal confirmation bias. Otherwise you're just showing a level of ignorance unbecoming of those who ply the healing trade.
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    Sianne Rose
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post

    So now you've just proven you don't pay attention either. *Slowly claps*

    I think I can safely say that I rest my case.

    Don't duo or solo POTD do you? Thought so. Mobs can be slept for quite a few floors. But it seems.. what would you know about that? Absolutely nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphyna View Post
    Don't duo or solo POTD do you? Thought so. Mobs can be slept for quite a few floors. But it seems.. what would you know about that? Absolutely nothing.
    The context of my comment was that the person in question quoted me in saying I thought sleep was good for PotD when it was your comment to show that the poster in question doesn't pay attention to what's going on - not as a means to insult your particular post.

    I don't use sleep much but I can definitely see the merit of it in PotD. I'm so used to not using Repose that I forgot PotD actually makes quite a few exceptions for thanks for reminding me that, lol.
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    Flare Kaage
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    White Mage Lv 70
    1. The New PI, I feel is better, and I do , get where people are coming from saying that SE wants us to use it immediately instead of holding on to the confessions. But I think they should really get rid of the 10 sec time limit still, or don't make it 3 stacks.
    2. I would also still like to see them make Benison work with one lily, and i really wish they would get rid of the 30 sec recast time and make it 2.5 or 3 sec like the other healers. I mean since our shield isn't made to protect the entire party the least they could do is let us use it more often like the others.
    3. Those are just my thoughts on what i would mostly like changed. And people should keep in mind that usually your final skill/spell that you get when you max out your level is not really meant to be used constantly. I usually think of them as "Oh Shit" skill/spells at least when it comes to WHM.
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    Archelaus Heron
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    Asura
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    I kinda like the current changes with the lilies and aoe heals it adds confessions to all players better than the previous version, though the timing on where to use PI is up to us awesome whm still divine benison if throwing my lalafell body to mitigate some damage i will do it.. but i dont wanna die..
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    Ferrinus Prime
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    I'm very happy with the changes to Cure 1 and Plenary Indulgence in the latest patch. I think the last rough spot on WHM is Secret of the Lily II. A percentage of cure crits is so small as to be invisible and I don't like having another job whose mechanics push them to specifically stack crit to power a job feature.

    I'd love it if Secret of the Lily II's cooldown reduction was based off HoT ticks, like an inverse of BLM's Thundercloud; like, maybe it'd be a 10% chance per Regen tick an a 3% chance per Medica II tick (the numbers could be massaged up and down to balance it, and maybe it'd only read a maximum of four MII ticks each interval in order to make sure that the feature isn't stronger in 8man duties than 4man duties).
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    Aeore Shillien
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrinus View Post
    I'm very happy with the changes to Cure 1 and Plenary Indulgence in the latest patch. I think the last rough spot on WHM is Secret of the Lily II. A percentage of cure crits is so small as to be invisible and I don't like having another job whose mechanics push them to specifically stack crit to power a job feature.

    I'd love it if Secret of the Lily II's cooldown reduction was based off HoT ticks, like an inverse of BLM's Thundercloud; like, maybe it'd be a 10% chance per Regen tick an a 3% chance per Medica II tick (the numbers could be massaged up and down to balance it, and maybe it'd only read a maximum of four MII ticks each interval in order to make sure that the feature isn't stronger in 8man duties than 4man duties).
    I was surprised that they didn't do anything with Secret of the Lily II on 4.05. However, I think White Mage is on a very good spot right now, I think buffing it would make it somewhat overpowered...
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    Sansa Faye
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    Still funny that WHM gets no love this patch. Again ^
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    Wynne Yilmaz
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sansa78 View Post
    Still funny that WHM gets no love this patch. Again ^
    I can't think of any issues WHM currently has besides PI stacks maybe having too short of a duration. Increasing it to 15 seconds would make it feel much better.

    What issues do you think we still have? IMO WHM hasn't been this good since Gordias.

    EDIT #1: I guess I can consider our level 68 trait another issue, due to relying on a 20% proc from a crit AKA super low chance. Maybe just make it into a spell that lets us consume Lilies at will for minor damage or healing? I just want a spell that lets me use Lilies for a minor bonus when all of my buffs are on cooldown, feels sad to waste lilies when I need to do big healing for larger pulls.
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    Last edited by magnanimousCynic; 08-09-2017 at 08:00 AM.
    I was the Almighty Enkidu for April Fools 2017.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    To be fair, it's not so much a flame war as it's 12 pages of people agreeing the OP is an idiot.

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    Rei Zero
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    Cerberus
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    Weaver Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by magnanimousCynic View Post
    I can't think of any issues WHM currently has besides PI stacks maybe having too short of a duration.
    Replace stone skin for Divine Benison is fully retard decision. I can´t shield to my MT pretty times we need because I don't have lilies, that I just spent on Assize or Tetra. Not even I look lilies more, its pretty invisible for me now.
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