Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

Just ran the first SB dungeon as a White Mage and got 3 lilies the entire run. They may as well have not been there. I'll keep pushing on to see how it goes because this is only dungeon play but it's not a good first impression.

DPS also feels a bit boring without stance dancing. There's no risk-reward anymore. But again, I'll keep going to 70 to get a full opinion.

The only thing SquarEnix has messed up more than White Mage is the bottlenecks at Raubahn and Pipin EX.

And THAT, in and of itself, says something.

After playing a number of dungeons I wanted to share my early impression of the lily system. I have been trying to play with the system and not ignore it like many people so I could get a taste of what it is like. The first thing I have noticed that lilies seem to create the problem they solve. While they give me access to assize faster so I can regen my mana I wind up spamming Cure II a bunch to get the cooldown reduced. This just winds of creating a mana efficiency problem... which all started because I wanted to solve a mana efficiency problem and so on (it's like a darn paradox.) Ultimately, mana is not an issue because at least the system does not fail to solve the problem it creates but I wonder what I am gaining from all of this? The next big thing that stood out to me is how completely split gameplay is by level. When I am in a leveling roulette and I don't have my lilies its like I am playing a completely different class and making the mental shift back to the old way of playing is difficult. I find myself wanting to spam Cure II only realize I don't have lilies to make up for all the mp I am spending. The next thing I noticed is that my power as a WHM is tied to skill level of the people I am playing with and not in a good way. I am more efficient, heal more, and do more damage the WORSE my group is at handling mechanics. When I am with a group that knows how to handle mechanics I cannot generate nearly as many lilies and I find myself casting Cure II after large AOE damage and when party members are at like 98% health. Again, this is not how I would normally play as a WHM but I wanted to try to play SE's game and I can honestly say I am baffled by their thinking here the whole thing contradicts itself.

Yeah, the smartest way to play is the way you're used to. Lilies only come into it when you're undergeared or don't know how the fight works.

(which is why they're a bad mechanic!!!!)

Lilies actually never come into play. You can ignore them completely and not notice them. CD reduction is bad in games where cooldowns are long in general. It would be great if it were something like 75% reduction on the next skill. Anything less than 50% is bad TBH.

Originally Posted by PhoLover

I am not sure why people are still complaining after the patch. I was a bit concern just because I read all these posts about whm. But honestly, after I play it in 4.0. I love it more. I went on a roulette: 50/60 yesterday and the tank kept dc the entire time. So you know what. I healed a machinist

everyone already knew whm would be the dungeon master that never was the issue , its when it comes to higher level content is why people are upset

Originally Posted by bswpayton

everyone already knew whm would be the dungeon master that never was the issue , its when it comes to higher level content is why people are upset

One among many other issues. I feel like focusing entirely on the raid issue would be detrimental to WHM in the long run.

Originally Posted by PhoLover

I am not sure why people are still complaining after the patch. I was a bit concern just because I read all these posts about whm. But honestly, after I play it in 4.0. I love it more. I went on a roulette: 50/60 yesterday and the tank kept dc the entire time. So you know what. I healed a machinist and a blm without a tank in that dungeon and I also got to dps, we finished the dungeon as 3 man with no wipe.

You mean the same thing I've been able to do for over two years now? It's not exactly hard healing most dungeons. >.>