Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[Kethic]

i would share with Red Mages. maybe. because it would be useful for that SC-VerRaise-VerCure-VerRaise(rinse repeat for 12s) thing they can do. that's it. just them. because i'm a greedy little WHM that is staring down stormblood and feeling like i'm that one kid in HS, that everyone picks on. (i know Monks felt this way, and DRGs too at one point)

And yes, i'm aware that SCH's are also taking a hit, WAR a bit, but...yeah this is one of those feelings in the pit of one's stomach and all we can do is hope that the actual release is better.

I AM looking forward to being the boss dps healer. Not looking forward to working harder for my raid spot, and having effectively nothing new in the expansion (since it currently looks like lilys and conf will be ignored in general usage)

[Saraphin]

I AM looking forward to being the boss dps healer. Not looking forward to working harder for my raid spot, and having effectively nothing new in the expansion (since it currently looks like lilys and conf will be ignored in general usage)

I'm going to hold judgement, depends on the basic dmg done, media release video didn't show much for a healing need (but it was a media build, so we don't know). WHMs are already being...told...they need to change on Ultros to AST, SCH or a DPS, and any recruitments flat out state "NO WHMs". We actually had a Returner get kicked from a dungeon in the first 5min on WHM today...so that was one of those moments that the Mentors were trying to soothe and distract. we got them to laugh and relax and not kneejerk leave, but...it was sad. this is already affecting the player base.

I can only HOPE our DPS can go up...and I agree...probably won't bother with Lily Gauge because of how scripted everything is.

[Kethic]

I'm going to hold judgement, depends on the basic dmg done, media release video didn't show much for a healing need (but it was a media build, so we don't know). WHMs are already being...told...they need to change on Ultros to AST, SCH or a DPS, and any recruitments flat out state "NO WHMs". We actually had a Returner get kicked from a dungeon in the first 5min on WHM today...so that was one of those moments that the Mentors were trying to soothe and distract. we got them to laugh and relax and not kneejerk leave, but...it was sad. this is already affecting the player base.

I can only HOPE our DPS can go up...and I agree...probably won't bother with Lily Gauge because of how scripted everything is.

The DELETE XXX theme needs to go. It could have been any class, and it's just people finding excuses to be abusive. WHM was the worst healer for 3.x raid content, and they're still present multiple times in top 50 parses. If a group is flat out saying No WHM, then they're saying they're incompetent.

I am a WHM main, I will find a way to raid, and this will all work itself out one way or another. Lily's and Confessions are a huge disappointment and will be ignored, but the rest of the rework does make us DPS monsters while our HoTs tick away unattended. Some of my napkin math suggests our personal DPS could potentially make up the difference of a Balance, and unless we absolutely need that shield at a particular moment, Lily's will be spent blindly to buy more DPS GCDs. It's going to be that good; even more so if the Raid Bosses aren't single target. Crit procs might be a differentiator.

The reputation damage has already been done, though, and the design is discouragingly bad. Here's hoping for a useful rework.

[Saraphin]

Snip.

They are finding a way to be abusive, and the Vet Players are not the only ones to feel the hit, the new players, the ones coming back are being slighted on.

I did raid in 3.X on a WHM, cleared a9s on a two shot with some friends. so i know it's possible. Didn't go further due to a toxic static, but that's not the point. (The ALT healers had AST and SCH and I wasn't pressured to change my healer, thankfully, but we had 3 people that could heal, so our AST could go MNK, i know, le gasp, we used a MNK, when our other healer was there.)

we can only HOPE that the patch notes will help with this, but...as you said, the Reputation Damage has been done, and those that started it, most likely were on one of the many WHM threads where they crunched numbers and proved that currently AST is Out WHMing WHMs....and nearly Out SCHing SCHs.