Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[Reiryuu]

As an Astrologian main since the day it was released (I jumped out of the Monk ship and never looked back), I think it's interesting to see White Mages up in arms over Earthly Star. Personally speaking, let's create a strange situation of equivalency: since everyone's equating this to Assize, let's make it so that Assize has this potency (200 Attack, 900 Heal max), and we'll just flip it for the Astrologian (900 Attack, 200 Heal max) and make it the devastating landmine it could be. *sigh* If only...

While we're making stuff up, let's make AST's new Sleeve Draw and Minor Arcana abilities work on a 20% chance proc from Benefic or Benefic 2, give WHM and SCH access to Bole, Ewer, Balance, Spire and Arrow. And just for kicks and giggles, WHM's version of the balance is 25% instead of 20%.

Oh. While we're at it, let's move Nocturnal stance to level 66... just because we can. Congratulations! ASTs are now WHMs.

Don't forget that Aspected Benefic has a 1 minute cooldown while in Noct.

Yeah, and technically the WHM balance should be GTAoE of 1 yalm and jump to 75% after 10 seconds. =/

[fantasticm]

While we're making stuff up, let's make AST's new Sleeve Draw and Minor Arcana abilities work on a 20% chance proc from Benefic or Benefic 2, give WHM and SCH access to Bole, Ewer, Balance, Spire and Arrow. And just for kicks and giggles, WHM's version of the balance is 25% instead of 20%.

Oh. While we're at it, let's move Nocturnal stance to level 66... just because we can. Congratulations! ASTs are now WHMs.

Don't forget that Aspected Benefic has a 1 minute cooldown while in Noct.

[MintnHoney]

While we're making stuff up,

You seem to be under this impression that the Astrologian's haven't had to deal with RNG with regards to their job's identity thus far, as if it weren't already built in, or that your job is the only one that's had to deal with this sort of problem. In fact, we have, and we've thrived. The same could be forethought with regards to the White Mage's brand new, tacked on performance enhancers: it may not be what you would like, but your Job can still play through the game successfully, and you'll likely thrive later on as revisions and updates to the game are made while content is released that proves its worth.

I'm sorry you're having a hard time with all of this, but I think you'll have a better time achieving change by not antagonizing people who are also attempting to agree with you and propose change in your benefit, including Square Enix.

Incidentally, you forgot about the Spear. If you're going to get cynical, do include everything. After all, you seem to need all the help you can get.

[Reiryuu]

Incidentally, you forgot about the Spear. If you're going to get cynical, do include everything. After all, you seem to need all the help you can get.

You can keep the Spear. And you forget, Minor Arcana and Sleeve Draw are going help you a lot when it comes to your RNG mechanics. But you're right... WHM in its proposed state does need all the help it can get. That's what this thread is for... hopefully. And while I'm sure many of us wouldn't mind constructive criticism to our plight, cynically made up crap certainly isn't going to help anyone.

Edit: You also missed my point. WHM has had many of its abilities given to both AST and SCH and now AST is getting abilities very similar to our own, (Assize/Earthly Star), but... actually better. The only drawback to Earthly Star is the small radius, but since many mechanics require you to group up and stack on one spot in raids, it shouldn't be too big a deal. Plop down Earthly Star while everyone is running to the spot, and by the time everyone's there, you got a nice 990/1035 potency heal waiting for everyone depending on your stance.

[Yhximott]

You seem to be forgetting that AST works as intended, gaining a great deal of power and utility in exchange for the lack of control. So stop complaining about a completely backwards and disruptive RNG factor being added to WHM because RNG is a thing in the game sometimes.

There I fixed it for you.