Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

It's a bonus not THE thing to do. In any content you can't just let your regen do the trick at some point you'll have to cure and in raid it'll happen alot. And yeah Spear sucks but having CDR freely but randomly with fillers seems everything exept bad. Yeah that could have been better but it works for all classes in many way.

lost too much for too little

Only Seal that would have been a nonsence with the lylies and stacks mechanique less cure = less stacks/lillies proc

No one speak about assize & benediction raw CD to balance.

No one speak about the free mana cost for 12 sec.

No one even consider the actual change that cleric stance modification will impact every heal.

You're only considering WHM apart from the others not the pary synergy or the impact of the dpsing aspect heals in general will have in raid.

Originally Posted by Saigo

You're only considering WHM apart from the others not the pary synergy or the impact of the dpsing aspect heals in general will have in raid.

So the fact we have 4 less basic skills, are less flexible in our choice of Role abilities, and have a grand total of ten less abilites (counting cards and fairy skills) isn't losing too much?

Originally Posted by Saigo

Enought with this shty nonsense OFC every WHM that have a brain will drop Regen but you only spam regen ? No you drop it and then cure I and cure 2 they're to fil stop playing dumb or think a bit before saying shty nonsense. x)

Don't know if you're just ill informed or trolling but you keep throwing this out and on the off chance you're serious with this I feel I should correct you.

Cure isn't your filler spell. Stone III is your filler spell.

I'm starting to see a lot of people who don't consistantly play WHM coming in and trying to convince us everything is fine. While yes, some of us have been hyperbolic in expressing what has been done to the class, some of us have been pretty measured and most of us are saying this isn't fine. No other class has this much of an uproar surrounding it and I don't think it's just because we WHM are 'sensitive' or too stubborn to change our playstyle. We legitimately have lost too much for too little and we need some adjustments.

I've played WHM a lot back in 2.0, not so much in 3.0 but I'd still like to give my suggestions.

First of all, I think the idea of a "pure healer" is wrong from the start. You should never shoehorn a Job into just one specific role. Even the most simple of jobs should at least have some sort of diversity. We have seen in the past that jobs that only focus on one single aspect usually didn't turn out to be very raid friendly and just in general were not on par with other classes. A good example for that would be PLD, MNK and WHM, also known as the "Trisaster of Heavensward", as in, most raids would prefer other jobs over them due to their lack of utility.

Now, while I do agree that WHM should probably be the sort of job that goes more for raw healing power, I do think there's nothing wrong with giving the job more raid utility and I have an idea that would even fit the role of the WHM. First of all both the lilies and the confessions effect needs to be replaced with something better, something that actually offers some raid utility. My suggestion would be something like this: Both Lilies and Confessions can be procced by every heal. When using the lilies the WHM does an AoE Heal with 300, 600 or 900 potency respectively. In essence the Lily mechanic would be reversal of the Confession mechanic, thus healing everyone through the WHM's Lilies.

As mentioned confessions would be procced through both single target and AoE heals. Each confession stack then adds a flat amount of Holy Damage to each attack, with the amount depending on how many stacks the user has. This would fit the WHM as a job. They pretty much "bless" the weapons of their comrades to increase their damage. It both fits the role AND would give WHM some raid utility, putting them a little closer to AST and SCH.

You're so funny x')

@Saigo: and you don't realize that people HAVE pointed the CD reductions out and no one has Refuted those points that they made. you seem to be here to just come off as "Stop whining and Git Gud".

There will forever be people who feel they're entitled to shove uneducated or provocative opinions in any public medium that they can, purely for the sake of stirring the pot or trying to be "edgy". All I can say, on behalf of everyone here who wishes to have a proper and productive conversation and analysis of WHM's current situation, is you are not welcome here if your "thoughts" equate to overly hostile and baseless statements that don't further the discussion.