Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

I wasn't aware you had already played the expansion. Please, do tell me how it's worked? One would think that because they removed damage from all CC, it would've had far greater importance. Was the Omega raid that awesome? Oh! And what about Ivalice?? Please tell me there were viera NPCs!

Let's not be silly. The use of CC won't change all that much. There's not going to suddenly be some dire use for Fluid Aura now that was sooo important they needed to strip the potency from it.

It was just a way for SE to decrease the number of buttons needed to be pressed in order to reach higher DPS. It's a shame though. We asked for more water spells, and SE takes the only one we had away. They sure are listening!

Its about time they stop living in the past and give whm something unique. I am done with the pure healer era.It has been going on long enough and I am sure whm mains are craving for more.It is just not satisfying enough to play whm.Whm could use a little more spice.Hopefully changes will occur in future patches if people are not happy with the lilly mechanic.They should at least make it more interesting.

There is a lot of interesting ideas, but honestly I don't feel like WHM needs a huge overhaul, just add utility that is common to them in the series.

1.) replace protect with repose making WHM main utility protect. I suggest to nerf it by making it only physical damage and a 3 minute duration to make it similar to the cards or other utility.

2.) Add shell as the magic version of protect and make them overwrite each other.

3.) Give them reraise (already exist in POTD)

4.) Give them arise (long cooldown/no weakness raise)

5.) Make rescue unique to them and replace the role action with stone skin.

There now they have 28 abilities as the other healers and the situational repose has been replaced by something much more useful. As for their new resource the Lilies as others have said just make them proc with HOT.

Originally Posted by Brightshadow

5.) Make rescue unique to them and replace the role action with stone skin.

Absolutely not. Rescue can stay as a role ability. Stoneskin if returned to the game should be returned to WHM.

Let's face it, Rescue will be used to troll people more often than actually assist people. It's a great idea on paper that will see about as much use as th BLM's group sleep. Fun to play with but it shouldn't be our class utility.

That said your raise suggestions are what I hope for.

I'm just a lowly WHM who plays the job because it's iconic. I think what this thread is missing is the the new WHM resource does not look fun.

For the average player like me the Lilly system might as well not even be there because it won't change how I play at all. All it amounts to is that sometimes some of my skills will have a lower cool down. What does that add to the fun of the class?

I've been a big fan of WHM since the first Final Fantasy, but when I played Final Fantasy XI is when I really fell in love with the job. Currently in FFXI, WHM has so many things to help out its party members like the Boost Spells that can raise any stat (STR, DEX, INT, MND, VIT, etc..), it also has Dia which reduces the defense of an enemy, Haste which increases the speed of auto attacks of party members, Arise which raises party members with full hp and a lesser weakned status (also gives reraise), and of course STONESKIN for mitigation.

The way WHM is right now in FFXIV's new expansion doesn't really intrigue me at all. I'd rather have some sort of buff for my party members that help them do their job better. Also I love being in control of my own abilities. I don't like being gated/restricted by some lame system. Removing Stoneskin from WHM was probably one of the worst things they did for WHM. The least they could of done was give us back the 18% Stoneskin we had instead of it being gated by again... some lame system.

I truly hope that the developers give us WHMs something else other than the lily system. WHMs need some damn love here!

I'm honestly going to really miss Stoneskin and Stoneskin II.

Originally Posted by Wasselin

I'm just a lowly WHM who plays the job because it's iconic. I think what this thread is missing is the the new WHM resource does not look fun.

Actually we went over that in detail, of course the thread is so huge conversations end up getting lost lol.
But yes, above all, the Lily system is BORING. AST and SCH both got spells that are fun to use and really nails down their identity. WHM on the other hand gets CD reduction. It's neither identifying for the WHM nor is it fun to make use of.

What a shame really. There are dozens of ideas floating around from not only players, but simply past games. It's ridiculous how they have over 13 previous games that featured WHM and the best that they could pull out of it all was CD reduction.