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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraphin View Post
    I will point out, Right now that TWO of the Released ToolTips say that Divine Benision uses All Lily Stacks (The skill it self and Secret of the Lilies...which reduces the CD...to at most i think we've said 60s skills will be down to 48s with 3 lilies)
    Actually only one of the tooltips suggest that you MUST have a lily in order to activate Divine Bension, and that's Divine Bension own tooltip. However The Lily Trait tooltip just tells you which skills consume lilies upon execution. By your logic though, if you read lily tooltip as meaning "lilies are required in order to execute: ", then consistently you'd have to add to your list of skills that require a lily to activate: Assize, Asylum, & Tetragrammon....
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh6K_81v4ds Time stamp 2:14 for lily trait description.
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    Quote Originally Posted by javid View Post
    Actually only one of the tooltips suggest that you MUST have a lily in order to activate Divine Bension, and that's Divine Bension own tooltip. However The Lily Trait tooltip just tells you which skills consume lilies upon execution. By your logic though, if you read lily tooltip as meaning "lilies are required in order to execute: ", then consistently you'd have to add to list of skills that require a lily to activate: Assize, Asylum, & Tetragrammon....
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh6K_81v4ds Time stamp 2:14 for lily trait description.

    I'm looking at the pictures that were posted on reddit, which were taken from the last...media release. the most current. this clearly states that Divine Benison uses All Lilies, and the media playthrough was one that the Healers had issues Proc'ing the Lilies, so they couldn't use the skill. not because of level, they were all level 70 for the Media weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraphin View Post
    I'm looking at the pictures that were posted on reddit, which were taken from the last...media release. the most current. this clearly states that Divine Benison uses All Lilies, and the media playthrough was one that the Healers had issues Proc'ing the Lilies, so they couldn't use the skill. not because of level, they were all level 70 for the Media weekend.
    LOL I feel like trolling you.... but i'll be nice... re read my post... I clearly say that Divine Benison (according to the media tour english tooltips) reads exactly as you have just now posted....HOWEVER it is the only tooltip that EXPLICITY suggest that it requires a lily in order to activate; the lily trait doesn't make that prerequisite plain. But still the tooltip can be wrong bc some of them weren't translated correctly.
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    In my opinion, healers should keep their own MP regen and heal boost becaus they all had a different one.

    MP Regen :

    White Mage : Increase the duration of Shroud of Saint to 21s, making White Mage have the best mana among the 3 healers with Assize and Thin Air.
    Astrologian : Keep Luminiferous Aether to 24s because Ast only has one mp regen skill
    Scholar : Keep the 20% regen on Aetherflow, it was fine.

    Of course, remove it from the cross abilities

    Heal Boost :

    White Mage : Give him back Divine Seal. If you want White Mage to be a pure healer, this skill suits him very well. +30% every 60S. He should keep that, definitly.
    Astrologian : Largess has the same cooldown and boost than Synastry so... give Synastry back the heal boost. It was fine like this.
    Scholar : Dissipation and Fey Illumination, in other words, he doesn't need Largess and it's a buff for him to get than.

    Then again, remove largess from the cross skill, every healers had their own skill and they were DIFFERENT
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    can you translate the post???
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    on reddit some1 said that cure2 will proc the lily with 100% chance also they said that the prewiew build they have shown was 1 month behind on their internal one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    on reddit some1 said that cure2 will proc the lily with 100% chance also they said that the prewiew build they have shown was 1 month behind on their internal one
    IF THIS IS TRUEEEEEEE...................the whole WHM game will be centered around lilies!!! 100% off cure II?? I can't even completely imagine all the difference (good/bad) this change would make!!!


    Can't do it right now, but can someone go bk to the Job action video and check and see what animation for the cures displayed were used during those 3 lily procs????? Man I can't wrap my mind around all the game changes of a 100% cure II proc....??
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    Last edited by javid; 06-05-2017 at 11:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    on reddit some1 said that cure2 will proc the lily with 100% chance also they said that the prewiew build they have shown was 1 month behind on their internal one
    Just came to talk about this. It alleviates some of the RNG around DB, sure, but until the issue that recast reductions on skills we hold onto for tankbusters or scripted raidwides is addressed the whole system itself is still massively underwhelming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    on reddit some1 said that cure2 will proc the lily with 100% chance also they said that the prewiew build they have shown was 1 month behind on their internal one
    Source? Though it'd be nice to use Cure II outside of dire situations.
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