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    Aryl Ritz
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    Astrologian Lv 100

    part 3

    3.) a lot of people are constantly speaking about how whm has a lack of utility. i agree with the idea of whm being a pure healer, but in this case adding a slight boost in attack speed for all players in the party would help whm have a bit more utility. This lets whm healers have a little something more to offer than just healing in end game raids.
    4.) we have seen that whm is definitely lacking in the number of skill it has, adding a skill such as this^^ helps that issue.

    i feel adding such a skill would be fairly easy, solve many of the issues with whm, and add some strategy/extra utility to whm. Keep in mind this skill itself doesn't take away everything that SE has done with whm so far. It keeps all the mechanics of each skill as they are, and making them more accessible. (although they can still be tweaked and adjusted as well of course)

    in terms of lore, themes of growth or grace, (natural or divine) could fit with whm

    thank you,
    akira
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    "A heartbeat without harmony
    Is moonlight without dark"

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    Jxnibbles's Avatar
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    Aimori Duciel
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    I have yet to even get 3 lillies in a Dungeon..
    I've done like 15 games of 8s, and 72mans pvp and that was the only time I got 3 lillies.. Such a bad system in PvE.
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    Wasselin Kainz
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    Faerie
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I often heal with a lot of cure and cure 2 in a dungeon when it's new to me and there were a large amount of times when I had nothing to spend lillies on. I don't have divine benison yet so that will probably change.

    Lillies really need to proc off of more skills. Why not proc off of stone and/or holy? At least at a low rate?
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    @Akira

    welcome to the forums :3 just wanna give ya a small offtopic hint - you can workaround the 1k charactercap by editing your posts

    Oh and i like your sig somehow <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    @Akira

    welcome to the forums :3 just wanna give ya a small offtopic hint - you can workaround the 1k charactercap by editing your posts

    Oh and i like your sig somehow <3

    Thank you so much! i'll remember that,

    and nice i'm glad you like it ^.^ first person to ever comment on it, in game or out.
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    "A heartbeat without harmony
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    Shaartis Laggal
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    Louisoix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    You could remove the lilies and I wouldn't notice at all.

    You could remove plenary indulgence and I wouldn't notice at all.

    That's how bad WHM it is.

    This Air is really good though.
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    Gemini Rising
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    Mateus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Of course, we're all playing for the top-end game. So, from what I've seen, don't roll a white mage since the AST is so superior as to make the WHM undesirable by other players requiring a healer.

    On another note; the rule is "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." All the hours gone into the "one-of-a-kind" FFXIV system that was just replaced...also figured into paid game time (real money, honey) only to be thrown over the side for some pie-in-the-sky philosophical notion of improvement. This is short-sighted beyond belief. I read all the sweeping generalities of "what we're going to do is..." Unfortunately, the application of these pipe dreams was Epic Fail.

    Now, I'm supposed to learn the NEW FFXIV!! (Waytaminnit...this WAS the NEW FFXIV!!!) You've managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory....Try some enlightened self-interest uh...Yoshi is it?
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    Last edited by Vamelo; 06-19-2017 at 01:29 PM.

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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vamelo View Post
    I read all the sweeping generalities of "what we're going to do is..." Unfortunately, the application of these pipe dreams was Epic Fail.
    I had really high hopes for the cross role system myself. I still feel like, had they approached it differently, it could have really saved WHM. Instead... it was used to strip WHM even more.
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    Katherine Mewgles
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Just finished the MSQ and some of my thoughts on the new system are that it really shines in 4-man dungeons. As in, you really get to utilize it there; not so much the trials. If the tank pulls a bunch of mobs, then you really get to use the lily system with spams of cures. I can usually generate plenty of lillies to consider utilizing them. In 8 mans, I just don't really use cure 1 or 2 that often. I mostly rely on both medicas, azzize, asylum, and renew. I might generate 1 or 2 lilies total in a trial but no where near enough for me to consider them as a tool.
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    Ragnar Sigurdsson
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    Ragnarok
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    Astrologian Lv 66
    The guy who designed WHM abilities from 60 to 70 should be fired. I cant understand how Yoshi-P accepted this horrendous WHM progress to 70.
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    Last edited by Arcana; 06-19-2017 at 11:52 PM.

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