Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[Kacho_Nacho]

When you use Regen and Medica II you already know there will be some overhealing since you can't control the damage output the enemy does, so if the enemy stops dealing damage the regen will continue ticking. Moreover, if you are overhealing with Regen and Medica II that means you are doing a great job, with 1 CAST you are already overhealing? Time to do DPS.

So true. This goes over a lot of people's heads and that's a shame.

This approach by SE emphasizing Cure I and II is just so confusing. We will be using our most inefficient heals to proc lilies and confession. How does that compare to what we are doing now in terms of efficiency and output? Can someone far brighter than me do some napkin math?

[javid]

So true. This goes over a lot of people's heads and that's a shame.

This approach by SE emphasizing Cure I and II is just so confusing. We will be using our most inefficient heals to proc lilies and confession. How does that compare to what we are doing now in terms of efficiency and output? Can someone far brighter than me do some napkin math?

I don't know who's head you're referring to...... b/c I just detailed exact META reason for what he's saying BEFORE noticing his post.....Some how FFXIV community can't have a discussion/disagreement without insulting each other in the process....GG :P

[Yhximott]

Cure has more potency if all you do is spam it for 30 seconds, never using any other spell.

This is the argument you've been making this whole time, and it's actually accurate. Spamming expensive, slow, single target heals is, in fact, the most potent healing, but it is not the most efficient, or the most common. WHM's cast regens, and pop instas. In between, we single target heal and DPS. This is the way we play. It simply is.

[javid]

This is the argument you've been making this whole time, and it's actually accurate. Spamming expensive, slow, single target heals is, in fact, the most potent healing, but it is not the most efficient, or the most common. WHM's cast regens, and pop instas. In between, we single target heal and DPS. This is the way we play. It simply is.

that's a nice summary. However potent healing or efficient is matter of semantics. if you asked the question which of the skills used is most efficiently uses their max potency? That right there would be a measure of EFFICIENCY.


Trolls coming out of the woodworks to argue points that don't make sense.....

So guys are telling me Effective Potency/Max Potency isn't a measure of efficiency???? I'm not allowed to say efficiency??????? If this isn't a measure of efficiency?? what is it??????

[Cynfael]

that's a nice summary. However potent healing or efficient is matter of semantics. if you asked the question which of the skills used is most efficiently uses their max potency? That right there would be a measure of EFFICIENCY.

Potency and efficiency are far from mutually inclusive. Hence why Cure spells are inherently less efficient in terms of GCDs and MP consumption vs. output despite their far greater potency per cast vs. Regen, for example.

If we're talking about overhealing, that is largely within the player's control. Naturally Medica II often overheals since it applies a regen effect to the entire party.

[Yhximott]

that's a nice summary. However potent healing or efficient is matter of semantics. if you asked the question which of the skills used is most efficiently uses their max potency? That right there would be a measure of EFFICIENCY.

Efficiency is a measure maximizing all your resources over a given, measurable period. In the context of only having Cure or only having Medica, for example, you'd be correct, but we have both, and many more skills, in fact. Cure I/II accounts for 2/23 of our available tools. You measured how much healing you could do if you spammed Cure over and over and over and over and over, offering literally nothing else to the party, which makes it seem like Cure is efficient compared to putting a Regen or a Medica II on someone and then standing around for that same 30 seconds. That's definitely not efficient.