Connecting the DoTs: A Summoner Guide

[xxalucard]

The opener I use:

B2 > M > B > Swift + Fester > Shadowflare > Rouse + Spur > R2 > Pot > R2 > RS + Pain > R2 > Fester + DWT > R2 > Aether + Enkindle > R2 > 3D > R3 > R2 > Fester > R3 > R2 > Deathflare

I basically copied most of this from you awhile ago but altered it a little:

Bio 2 > Miasma -> Bio -> Swiftcast + Fester -> Shadowflare -> Rouse + Spur -> Ruin 3* -> Ruin 2 -> Raging Strikes -> Potion -> Painflare -> Fester -> Aetherflow + Dreadwyrm Trance -> Ruin 3 -> Tri-Disaster + Enkindle -> Ruin 3 -> Ruin 3 -> Ruin 2 -> Fester (1-2 secs left on pot) -> Ruin 3 ~ Contagion -> Deathflare

I use ruin 3 in the beginning because I'll be over max mp anyway with the bonus aetherflow.

I'm not that good at the math so I just kind of "follow my heart" and hope it's right.

[waifugenerator]

Do you have any tips for A1? I'm consistently pulling around 1000dps when I should be around 1.2k. I'm dotting 0.5 every time 3D is ocd and bane-ing onto adds. Can't think of any thing else I needa do O:

[Dervy]

Hi, Math time.

I noticed a few of you guys were using my 0.0000724 scale factor for Skillspeeds affect on DoTs. I just want to reiterate, that scale only works on the Dragoon due to how the model works and generally speaking, potency... How could I put it in nice terms, is inconsistent. 30 Potency, I've noticed, isn't 30 Potency, but closer to 29.7 (so 29.7/100*dmg). My model still does 30/100, so it overestimates the actual base damage calculation slightly. Because of this, my solver scales Skillspeed much less for DoT damage than it should be.


The actual calculation is closer to ((Skillspeed-354)/7722, or, 0.0001295, from which I can draw few conclusions:

A) 0.000377358/3 = 0.000125786 (or 1/3 of the scaling of Skill/Spellspeed on GCD/Casts)
B) Roughly 0.0000075 less than Determination, per point.
C) For Summoners, that is actually scary.

As for common misconceptions about Determination "weights"

A) No, just because you're not Auto-Attacking, it doesn't justdevalue Determination. It devalues everything. If we assume Auto-Attacks are 10% of a Scholars overall DPS and we take that away, then every stat, excluding Spellspeed, is being devalued by 10%.

B) Changes in weights due to a lack of AA's. So if s "AP" (This is both STR and Int) is 100, and Determination is 13 for arguments sake (numbers out of bottom):

13/100 = 0.13 (This is the relative APET weight)
13/1.1 = 11.818
100/1.1 = 90.909
11.818/90.909 = 0.129 (rounding issues etc)

It doesn't work exactly like this (especially for the summoner), but you should get the rough idea how a lack of Auto-Attacks affects the values of stuff.

It's looking more and more likely, it really is CTR > SS > DET for a Summoner. Klorex also PM'd me a few parses and I have Summoner data coming in, so this week I think I'll start work on it if I get time, as I'm still collecting more Skillspeed Data.

[OneWingedSora]

snip.

Wow, that's actually quite interesting. Please keep us updated~

[Davester]

so a blm that leveled smn for A2s and hasn't had much play on it,any A2s tips(and aoe tips in general),i always burn through alot of aetherflow on one wave and have nothing for the next,and dreadwyrm stance throws everything off

[Sleigh]

Big waves are wave 3, 4, 7, 8, and 9, big CDs then. Bane priority >>> Painflare priority, most waves you'll wanna get off a Bane then you'll get off a 3D on a 5 stack enemy + Contagion + Bane, so try to ensure you'll have a stack at all times unless Aetherflow is just about to come up. Keep Shadow Flare up most of the time, not a bad idea to use it in DWT in A2S all things considered. Use Garuda's AoE a shitload, you should be using it 15+ times. Don't go crazy with B2, within reason on some waves but after using it a few times you better /pray your healers are getting Ballad eventually. Do keep M2 up a lot, at least 1-2 a wave.

[alphamax112]

so a blm that leveled smn for A2s and hasn't had much play on it,any A2s tips(and aoe tips in general),i always burn through alot of aetherflow on one wave and have nothing for the next,and dreadwyrm stance throws everything off

Sometimes, trying to bane a widow in wave 6 will only hit some mobs that are really close to it, even its target circle is huge and you think your bane will get all of them

Big waves are wave 3, 4, 7, 8, and 9, big CDs then. Bane priority >>> Painflare priority, most waves you'll wanna get off a Bane then you'll get off a 3D on a 5 stack enemy + Contagion + Bane, so try to ensure you'll have a stack at all times unless Aetherflow is just about to come up. Keep Shadow Flare up most of the time, not a bad idea to use it in DWT in A2S all things considered. Use Garuda's AoE a shitload, you should be using it 15+ times. Don't go crazy with B2, within reason on some waves but after using it a few times you better /pray your healers are getting Ballad eventually. Do keep M2 up a lot, at least 1-2 a wave.

When do you use Enkindle? I use it at wave 3, 5/6 and 8.

[Sleigh]

It used to be 3/7/9 but we're gonna be approaching kill times probably this week or next where CDs have to change or we're losing some. That turn's gonna be annoying to play proper every week, gonna have to look up personal time stamps and push timings per the gear level unlike A1/A3 which are static.

[Minorinz]

so, it's more like Det out weighs SS but Det isn't efficient enough atm due to AA not being accounted for. Now APs are going to get cap'd eventually so when will Det balance out again? I just find it weird that SS is very close to Det on raw data. I always thought Det was a multiplier as a linear function but this AA thing i dunno anymore. I hope i'm reading this wrong cause i just don't like SS lol

[Dervy]

You are reading it wrong. As I said, If you're saying DET isn't efficient because AAs aren't counted for, then CRT is also isn't efficient and neither is DEX for bards. All 3 are being devalued due to a lack of AAs.

DET isn't the only thing that affects AAs.

But anyway, how many SMNs still book smack?