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    Sleigh's Avatar
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    Character
    Philia Felice
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    The opener I use:

    B2 > M > B > Swift + Fester > Shadowflare > Rouse + Spur > R2 > Pot > R2 > RS + Pain > R2 > Fester + DWT > R2 > Aether + Enkindle > R2 > 3D > R3 > R2 > Fester > R3 > R2 > Deathflare

    Advantages: no clipping, ASAP Shadow, pot hits Pain + Fester + DWT Fester, get into DWT within 7 GCDs which helps if you pop Litany on the pull, can be a final R3 > hardcast Deathflare if you have Selene or massive SS like these dumb i210 pants give.

    The opener you use:

    Bio 2 -> Miasma -> Bio -> Painflare -> Fester -> R2 -> Swiftcast -> Rouse -> Shadowflare -> Spur -> Raging -> R2 -> Painflare -> Aetherflow -> R2 -> Pot -> R2 [Bio is dropping] -> Enkindle [delay] -> DWT -> Tri-D -> Fester [10-11 secs left on pot] -> R3 -> R3 -> R3/R2 -> Fester [1-2 secs left on pot] -> Deathflare [before pot ends]

    Advantages directly compared to mine: Pot hits DWT Fester X2 + Deathflare

    Disadvantage directly compared to mine: Trading a Fester for a Painflare in the long run, less stacks to use on Bane or Painflare or staggering Fester to use after initial DWT, some clipping (which doesn't matter much for SMN unless it cuts you off from something), lose an attack in DWT, slightly slower DWT activation which may or may not impact you based on TA/Litany (could also benefit you I suppose!)

    The opener I use, I never really intended for it to catch on as something people use, was just something a buddy and I whipped up after comparing our ARR opener with Hai Hai's opener and merged them. It could probably benefit from some tweaking but there will always be downsides to the compromises in some ways so I haven't really found something that's just straight up, this is better period (in which case I would start using THAT opener).
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    xxalucard's Avatar
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    Character
    Nurse Joy
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    The opener I use:

    B2 > M > B > Swift + Fester > Shadowflare > Rouse + Spur > R2 > Pot > R2 > RS + Pain > R2 > Fester + DWT > R2 > Aether + Enkindle > R2 > 3D > R3 > R2 > Fester > R3 > R2 > Deathflare
    I basically copied most of this from you awhile ago but altered it a little:

    Bio 2 > Miasma -> Bio -> Swiftcast + Fester -> Shadowflare -> Rouse + Spur -> Ruin 3* -> Ruin 2 -> Raging Strikes -> Potion -> Painflare -> Fester -> Aetherflow + Dreadwyrm Trance -> Ruin 3 -> Tri-Disaster + Enkindle -> Ruin 3 -> Ruin 3 -> Ruin 2 -> Fester (1-2 secs left on pot) -> Ruin 3 ~ Contagion -> Deathflare

    I use ruin 3 in the beginning because I'll be over max mp anyway with the bonus aetherflow.

    I'm not that good at the math so I just kind of "follow my heart" and hope it's right.
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