Connecting the DoTs: A Summoner Guide

[Havenchild]

First, your TD doesn't line up with Trick Attack because you go into DWT later losing the extra 16% dmg it gains. Everything I've read says that dmg buffs are multiplicative rather than static increases, so this makes the 10% from trick attack a lot larger than the 10% it shows.

I very much disagree that you should throw in factors you have no control over in your spreadsheet (granted it is yours). Saying skills like TA will happen at X time, is not a guarantee as we do not control said players. I have raided with many different ninja in 2.55 and the Trick Attack timing was almost always differing among different players, not to mention, for the instances you do not have a Ninja present. Finding an optimal rotation to start with should be about elements you can control, Pot/ Buff timing. More to the point when you have elements like Garudas Contagion to increase the duration of snapshotted DoTs that could have benefited from other class skills. Throws a very big wrench in proper calculation of optimal openers.

As for Enkindle potencies:

Garuda is 250 one hit, Ifrit is 200 one hit + 20 x 5 DoT ticks

[Meleoffs]

I very much disagree that you should throw in factors you have no control over in your spreadsheet (granted it is yours). Saying skills like TA will happen at X time, is not a guarantee as we do not control said players. I have raided with many different ninja in 2.55 and the Trick Attack timing was almost always differing among different players, not to mention, for the instances you do not have a Ninja present. Finding an optimal rotation to start with should be about elements you can control, Pot/ Buff timing. More to the point when you have elements like Garudas Contagion to increase the duration of snapshotted DoTs that could have benefited from other class skills. Throws a very big wrench in proper calculation of optimal openers.

As for Enkindle potencies:

Garuda is 250 one hit, Ifrit is 200 one hit + 20 x 5 DoT ticks

Every ninja I've raided with has had trick attack up before shadow fang. In an organized group having it up on the 4th GCD is really what you want to look for. That's how people found out the optimal opener for BLM was b3 t1. Ignoring buffs to find a rotation thats the highest potency outside of them is silly because it doesn't fully make use of the resources available to you and doesn't maximize your damage. Any ninja that doesn't have trick attack up before their shadowfang and before Aeolian edge was a bad ninja. Losing the 20 potency on shadowfangs base hit from trick alone is huge.

[Wisper]

Ifrit is better now ? Garuda is really good with contagion.

[Darkstride]

Ifrit is better now ? Garuda is really good with contagion.

Ifrit deals more damage than Garuda. Contagion is good and had its uses, but it's overrated as far as claiming Garuda is always the optimal choice.

[Sleigh]

With Radiant Shield I'm honestly never seeing a point to Garuda right now except maybe in fights where you just really want a ranged pet.

[Meleoffs]

With Radiant Shield I'm honestly never seeing a point to Garuda right now except maybe in fights where you just really want a ranged pet.

Yep contagion is really only worth 7 pps, Ifrits the way to go.

[Odowla]

With Radiant Shield I'm honestly never seeing a point to Garuda right now except maybe in fights where you just really want a ranged pet.

Contagion is better now with Trick + Tri-distaster dots every minute. Adds up, yo.

[ShinryuReishiki]

One of the big shortcomings of Contagion is that it was only ever a significant gain when combined with buffs like Raging Strikes and such. The next two times you used it, it would be an extremely tiny gain.

Now with Dreadwyrm Trance and Tri-disaster, you could get some more mileage by extending buffed DoTs every minute instead of just once every 3 minutes. This could close the gap between the pets, depending on the encounter. I haven't done any testing, though; I'll worry about it after I get my Ravana book.

[Meleoffs]

One of the big shortcomings of Contagion is that it was only ever a significant gain when combined with buffs like Raging Strikes and such. The next two times you used it, it would be an extremely tiny gain.

Now with Dreadwyrm Trance and Tri-disaster, you could get some more mileage by extending buffed DoTs every minute instead of just once every 3 minutes. This could close the gap between the pets, depending on the encounter. I haven't done any testing, though; I'll worry about it after I get my Ravana book.

Even with that the difference between the two is 2pps more in favor of garuda while ifrit does 50+ dps more. However in the long run, its worth about 20 potency per second. I do believe that ifrit more than makes up for it through his damage though and running garuda in the opener loses its benefit after 1 minute where ifrit takes over. Would it be worth considering swapping to Ifrit on the second swift cast and losing a gcd? I really don't think so. That said, I've found a pretty decent opener.

-4 rouse spur raging obey
-2.5 bio 2 > miasma > bio > fester> ruin 2 > enkindle > ruin > painflare energy drain > ruin 2 > aetherflow dreadwyrm trance > ruin 2 > pot fester > ruin 2 > swiftcast > shadowflare > tri-disaster > ruin 3 > ruin 2 > fester > ruin 2 > deathflare

This opener amounts to 237.96 potency per second burst, dropping to 176.49 potency per second after the first minute. Garuda does 241.12 potency per second burst and 191.47 until the first minute and then drops sharply after that. The 10% dmg from Dreadwyrm Trance alone isn't enough to outweigh the damage gain from ifrit past the first contagion, and probably not at all.



It's really messy and one or two things are out of place but yeah, the math that's there should be correct. It's mostly incorrect in that the last fester should be during bio, the ruin 2 where that fester is used should be ruin, and the DWT should be above the ruin 2. EDIT: Oopse corrected a mistake that makes a .41 pps difference

[pandabearcat]

Contagion RS dots is not as significant of a dps increase as you might think.

It ends up saving you 2 GCDs, rather than 1.8 GCDs.

Woo.