Connecting the DoTs: A Summoner Guide

[Sleigh]

Big waves are wave 3, 4, 7, 8, and 9, big CDs then. Bane priority >>> Painflare priority, most waves you'll wanna get off a Bane then you'll get off a 3D on a 5 stack enemy + Contagion + Bane, so try to ensure you'll have a stack at all times unless Aetherflow is just about to come up. Keep Shadow Flare up most of the time, not a bad idea to use it in DWT in A2S all things considered. Use Garuda's AoE a shitload, you should be using it 15+ times. Don't go crazy with B2, within reason on some waves but after using it a few times you better /pray your healers are getting Ballad eventually. Do keep M2 up a lot, at least 1-2 a wave.

[alphamax112]

so a blm that leveled smn for A2s and hasn't had much play on it,any A2s tips(and aoe tips in general),i always burn through alot of aetherflow on one wave and have nothing for the next,and dreadwyrm stance throws everything off

Sometimes, trying to bane a widow in wave 6 will only hit some mobs that are really close to it, even its target circle is huge and you think your bane will get all of them

Big waves are wave 3, 4, 7, 8, and 9, big CDs then. Bane priority >>> Painflare priority, most waves you'll wanna get off a Bane then you'll get off a 3D on a 5 stack enemy + Contagion + Bane, so try to ensure you'll have a stack at all times unless Aetherflow is just about to come up. Keep Shadow Flare up most of the time, not a bad idea to use it in DWT in A2S all things considered. Use Garuda's AoE a shitload, you should be using it 15+ times. Don't go crazy with B2, within reason on some waves but after using it a few times you better /pray your healers are getting Ballad eventually. Do keep M2 up a lot, at least 1-2 a wave.

When do you use Enkindle? I use it at wave 3, 5/6 and 8.

[Sleigh]

It used to be 3/7/9 but we're gonna be approaching kill times probably this week or next where CDs have to change or we're losing some. That turn's gonna be annoying to play proper every week, gonna have to look up personal time stamps and push timings per the gear level unlike A1/A3 which are static.

[Minorinz]

so, it's more like Det out weighs SS but Det isn't efficient enough atm due to AA not being accounted for. Now APs are going to get cap'd eventually so when will Det balance out again? I just find it weird that SS is very close to Det on raw data. I always thought Det was a multiplier as a linear function but this AA thing i dunno anymore. I hope i'm reading this wrong cause i just don't like SS lol

[Dervy]

You are reading it wrong. As I said, If you're saying DET isn't efficient because AAs aren't counted for, then CRT is also isn't efficient and neither is DEX for bards. All 3 are being devalued due to a lack of AAs.

DET isn't the only thing that affects AAs.

But anyway, how many SMNs still book smack?

[Minorinz]

Yeah but which stat takes the worst hit from it? You focused on Det there.
Well, I book smack for sure. My book smacks are usually around 55-100 points, also my highest is 184 crit.

[Minorinz]

I guess using enkindle before a potion isn't that big of a deal especially if you can squeeze an extra ruin 3 during dread

[Sylkis]

I guess using enkindle before a potion isn't that big of a deal especially if you can squeeze an extra ruin 3 during dread

Does potion increase pet damage? Last time I remembered it was that the pet took a snapshot of your stats when you summon it, but this was before 3.0

Assuming it does, I think the potion is 10-15% more for the 250 potency enkindle (25-40 more), while ruin3 is 40 more than ruin2

[Sleigh]

Does potion increase pet damage? Last time I remembered it was that the pet took a snapshot of your stats when you summon it, but this was before 3.0

Assuming it does, I think the potion is 10-15% more for the 250 potency enkindle (25-40 more), while ruin3 is 40 more than ruin2

With Rouse + Spur Enkindle is roughly 490 potency, so missing pot on that is a bit more painful than just a 250 potency Enkindle.

The main thing wrong with the 3 Fester opener you compared against the others is, you're going to miss Battle Voice/Litany/Trick Attack on your highest burst period. If your DRG pops Litany anywhere from 0-3s after pull, you are forced into a 15s DWT opener, lest you want your 3D to not get Litany + RS + pot + DWT.

[Sylkis]

With Rouse + Spur Enkindle is roughly 490 potency, so missing pot on that is a bit more painful than just a 250 potency Enkindle.

The main thing wrong with the 3 Fester opener you compared against the others is, you're going to miss Battle Voice/Litany/Trick Attack on your highest burst period. If your DRG pops Litany anywhere from 0-3s after pull, you are forced into a 15s DWT opener, lest you want your 3D to not get Litany + RS + pot + DWT.

Ah ok, I guess that's the thing, we don't have BRD or NIN in our group (SMN DRG MNK MCH). Not sure when DRG uses Litany

I'm also assuming you aren't counting pre-casts here, which could change that potency under DWT depending on when the tick lands I suppose.

Do you mean casting Bio2 before the fight starts? Can just take off -2.5s off the start time of everything otherwise its the same