Removing elemental nukes from WHM

[Lady]

No sorry, WHM is a better CNJ.... It can use every ability the CNJ has, and then some. Same with every other class->job in 1.0.....

But you could not longer use skills from other classes. So in that sense its arguable that CNJ was better.

[Reika]

But you could not longer use skills from other classes. So in that sense its arguable that CNJ was better.

Actually you could still use skills from Gladiator and Pugilist.... Each job had 2 other classes it could still take skills from. Having gladiator and pugilist alone meant you had sentinel for dmg reduction, featherfoot for a free evade + mp regain from it, second wind, the MP-less self heal....

and if you were really getting beat on, by golly benediction. Cant do that on CNJ.

and by golly if youre still sucking it, Repose and run away to fight another day.

[Lady]

Actually you could still use skills from Gladiator and Pugilist.... Each job had 2 other classes it could still take skills from. Having gladiator and pugilist alone meant you had sentinel for dmg reduction, featherfoot for a free evade + mp regain from it, second wind, the MP-less self heal....

and if you were really getting beat on, by golly benediction. Cant do that on CNJ.

and by golly if youre still sucking it, Repose and run away to fight another day.

While I agree with you, and I am appauled at my spelling skills. Someone could certainly argue that having skills from THM made CNJ > WHM... Its all a matter of opinion. I'm completely open to suggestions, and refuse to get caught up in the FFXI MO, that things are "only good a certain way and don't you dare argue".

[Reika]

While I agree with you, and I am appauled at my spelling skills. Someone could certainly argue that having skills from THM made CNJ > WHM... Its all a matter of opinion. I'm completely open to suggestions, and refuse to get caught up in the FFXI MO, that things are only good a certain way and don't you dare argue.

But the reason I think WHM should lose the ability to cast elemental magic is to make CNJ the better damager. If it continues like it has been, there is no reason to use the classes over the jobs.

CNJ certainly should be MUCH better than WHM at doing damage, however that cant happen when WHM can use all of its spells and abilities, and the measly low level spells you can take from THM that you cant even combo with really do not help CNJ do more damage. CNJ cant do the thunder-thundara combo, and it cant use thundaga. Its gimping yourself to even try. CNJ and other classes could see party roles, where CNJ is the one that kills the stone/aero/water weak monsters while BLM is the one that kills the thunder/fire/ice weak monsters, Or if the monsters really have no weakness you can just pick one, and WHM heals them all while they do it.

Only another overhaul of the system to totally make classes and their attached jobs different of can fix this. Waiting til the cap is lvl99 is unacceptible (someone mentioned that :/). Either they do that, or just get rid of classes. Make all the noobs start out as lvl 1 Paladins, Lvl1 White mages, Lvl 1 Dragoons. Thats pretty much what they handed us anyways.