#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[ForsakenRoe]

Also they keep adding those high potency moves so it feels especially bad when you don't crit them with how the scaling works and when you compare them to other stats. I harp on piety all the time because it has the second worse scaling in terms of tiers only after determination.

'Some players dislike the RNG of the AST cards'
>remove the RNG entirely, making them 100% predictable (harming the identity of the job in the process)

'AST is now behind on damage because they have less RDPS contribution from the cards'
>increase the potency of their personal DPS actions, such as buffing the DOT by an unprecedented 15p per tick (harming the identity of the job in the process)

'AST needs a new 2min button like the other healers got at level 92'
>gives AST an 860p nuke that is not guaranteed to Crit or Direct Hit, thereby not only (harming the identity of the job in the process), but also bringing back RNG into the job's design, having just removed it. ????

Unlike the Cards, where the player had some degree of control over the RNG (Redrawing, for example), there's no working around the Oracle Crit RNG. You either get lucky, or get screwed. So, what did the rework solve?

Also, they could have at least made Oracle more... distinct in function from the other 'it does big damage' attacks added with DT. Like, I would suggest making it do 12 hits of 70p, one for each of the Twelve (since it uses their symbols in the VFX). That way, it's super-resistant to Crit Variance, as there's 12 individual 'did it Crit' rolls to do. And what if we get a little more creative: The colour of the VFX changes, to mirror your Patron Deity. You picked Halone? Ice Blue Oracle. You picked Oschon? Green Oracle. Rhalgr, Purple Oracle, etc. A nice little way for people to show what they picked for that one, otherwise entirely fluff choice at the start of the game

[YarnMage48]

'Some players dislike the RNG of the AST cards'
>remove the RNG entirely, making them 100% predictable (harming the identity of the job in the process)

'AST is now behind on damage because they have less RDPS contribution from the cards'
>increase the potency of their personal DPS actions, such as buffing the DOT by an unprecedented 15p per tick (harming the identity of the job in the process)

'AST needs a new 2min button like the other healers got at level 92'
>gives AST an 860p nuke that is not guaranteed to Crit or Direct Hit, thereby not only (harming the identity of the job in the process), but also bringing back RNG into the job's design, having just removed it. ????

Unlike the Cards, where the player had some degree of control over the RNG (Redrawing, for example), there's no working around the Oracle Crit RNG. You either get lucky, or get screwed. So, what did the rework solve?

Also, they could have at least made Oracle more... distinct in function from the other 'it does big damage' attacks added with DT. Like, I would suggest making it do 12 hits of 70p, one for each of the Twelve (since it uses their symbols in the VFX). That way, it's super-resistant to Crit Variance, as there's 12 individual 'did it Crit' rolls to do. And what if we get a little more creative: The colour of the VFX changes, to mirror your Patron Deity. You picked Halone? Ice Blue Oracle. You picked Oschon? Green Oracle. Rhalgr, Purple Oracle, etc. A nice little way for people to show what they picked for that one, otherwise entirely fluff choice at the start of the game

You're hitting the nail right on the head with this one. We've lost class differentiation because we complain about the differences. I'm also tired of Sage being described as a "worse scholar" Kardia is just "Selene but it sucks". Like. We got something unique with that. And what did we do? We complained that its not as "good" as SCH. Frankly I think that Kardia requiring DPS uptime is neat. It requires player skill. But also the flexibility of Selene is good too. So like. They are different and both good. But as long as we keep complaining about the class features that we have, the more we are going to lose them, and each class will look more and more like each other. SE really doesn't have any good options, no matter what they do someone here on the forums is going to complain VERY LOUDLY about it.

Also I really like your ideas for Oracle. That would be really neat and bring back a little of the class identity.

[Supersnow845]

You're hitting the nail right on the head with this one. We've lost class differentiation because we complain about the differences. I'm also tired of Sage being described as a "worse scholar" Kardia is just "Selene but it sucks". Like. We got something unique with that. And what did we do? We complained that its not as "good" as SCH. Frankly I think that Kardia requiring DPS uptime is neat. It requires player skill. But also the flexibility of Selene is good too. So like. They are different and both good. But as long as we keep complaining about the class features that we have, the more we are going to lose them, and each class will look more and more like each other. SE really doesn't have any good options, no matter what they do someone here on the forums is going to complain VERY LOUDLY about it.

Also I really like your ideas for Oracle. That would be really neat and bring back a little of the class identity.

I would say that the SGE is just a worse SCH argument is arguing in favour of wanting more job diversity simply because SGE really doesn’t actually do anything better than SCH

Complaining that two classes are functionally identical but one is just better on pretty much every front I think is a perfectly valid complaint to have against the position of SGE in terms of its identity

[Vandi]

1053 pages…sweet Jezuz….

I’m starting to think you healers are actually serious about this…

[Absurdity]

Also, they could have at least made Oracle more... distinct in function from the other 'it does big damage' attacks added with DT. Like, I would suggest making it do 12 hits of 70p, one for each of the Twelve (since it uses their symbols in the VFX). That way, it's super-resistant to Crit Variance, as there's 12 individual 'did it Crit' rolls to do. And what if we get a little more creative: The colour of the VFX changes, to mirror your Patron Deity. You picked Halone? Ice Blue Oracle. You picked Oschon? Green Oracle. Rhalgr, Purple Oracle, etc. A nice little way for people to show what they picked for that one, otherwise entirely fluff choice at the start of the game

But why would they? Literally every other job just got a pointless "finisher" nuke stapled to it in Dawntrail with 100% flash and 0% substance. Not even the golden child that is melee DPS got anything with more thought behind it, obviously AST wouldn't be the exception.

[Supersnow845]

But why would they? Literally every other job just got a pointless "finisher" nuke stapled to it in Dawntrail with 100% flash and 0% substance. Not even the golden child that is melee DPS got anything with more thought behind it, obviously AST wouldn't be the exception.

Rainbow drip as a finisher is so good PCT doesn’t feel half as good without it so I guess PCT is an exception but PCT is basically an exception to the game entire crappy job system at this point

[Aravell]

Frankly I think that Kardia requiring DPS uptime is neat. It requires player skill.

This would be true if we didn't already spend up to 90% of each fight mashing the Dosis button. They also could really have done more with Kardia rather than making it a 'Regen but it only ticks when I mash my filler button' ability.

[Tint]

I'm also tired of Sage being described as a "worse scholar" Kardia is just "Selene but it sucks". Like. We got something unique with that. And what did we do? We complained that its not as "good" as SCH. Frankly I think that Kardia requiring DPS uptime is neat. It requires player skill.

Kardia requires dps uptime because it does nothing more than mirroring the fairy casting Embrace while the ajoining SCH is dpsing.

When the SCH stops dpsing and casts heals instead, then the fairy will contine to heal alongside the SCH, that's why the fairy is "better". The healing kit of SCH is spread over himself and the fairy.

Sage on the other hand doesn't need Kardia to heal alongside himself when he stops dpsing. He does everything Kardia (the fairy) would do by himself.


Kardia is just a lazy solution to the problem that they never could balance Noct AST and SCH.

[Molex]

Man reading this thread, as a healer main, I'm happy SE completely ignore your feedback. You guys would kill the entire role in a single patch.

[Connor]

Man reading this thread, as a healer main, I'm happy SE completely ignore your feedback. You guys would kill the entire role in a single patch.

I just learned how to do this recently lol

guys it’s beating me!

Ok nothing to see here just a guy posting a meme with absolutely no difficulty whatsoever…