#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[ASkellington]

My guess for the dislike of SMN/RDM raise is strictly because the last thing a healer is really needed for is LB3 and being able to recover a situation. RDM and SMN feel like they're stepping on the healer role simply because the way things are these raises don't feel like they're supplementary, like they are helping. They feel like they are taking something away.

90% of the time a RDM VerRaises with dualcast I genuinely do did not need their help. I have SwiftCast up and I am beyond bored yet despite I have nothing to do... you "do my job for me" when you had no reason to.

See what I mean now? I don't have a problem with the raises much like I don't have a problem with tanks being able to heal themselves. It works out in other games. It just doesn't work out here. Not any more.

[Kes13a]

My guess for the dislike of SMN/RDM raise is strictly because the last thing a healer is really needed for is LB3 and being able to recover a situation. RDM and SMN feel like they're stepping on the healer role simply because the way things are these raises don't feel like they're supplementary, like they are helping. They feel like they are taking something away.

90% of the time a RDM VerRaises with dualcast I genuinely do did not need their help. I have SwiftCast up and I am beyond bored yet despite I have nothing to do... you "do my job for me" when you had no reason to.

See what I mean now? I don't have a problem with the raises much like I don't have a problem with tanks being able to heal themselves. It works out in other games. It just doesn't work out here. Not any more.

myself, I dont mind RDM raises, as for SMN, in my experience most SMN dont even have raise on their bar.

I dont have a problem mostly with tanks and dps having a self heal.... its when we start talking about an AOE heal on a tank or dps... or heals that they can splash off on another that are better than a healer can do, or even self heals that mean they become essentially invincible... thats where a problem starts. its not being OP.. its just being poorly designed. no job should be functionally invincible in a multiplayer game.

[Azurarok]

Verraise drains RDM's mp very quickly so it's not quite as infinite, but their being able to rapid fire it sure can save a wipe in the right hands, and I honestly really appreciate it in prog parties since it lets healers focus on topping up the rest of the party and we can actually try the next mech.

Slight tangent but I kinda think WHM could use a similar advantage over the other healers by making Thin Air also grant instant casts.

[ASkellington]

Verraise drains RDM's mp very quickly so it's not quite as infinite, but their being able to rapid fire it sure can save a wipe in the right hands, and I honestly really appreciate it in prog parties since it lets healers focus on topping up the rest of the party and we can actually try the next mech.

Slight tangent but I kinda think WHM could use a similar advantage over the other healers by making Thin Air also grant instant casts.

AST pretty much has that with Lightspeed. It reduces the cast time enough to where 1.5 GCDs are instant and Raise is reduced. I usually... well I USED to hit it when I needed to mass chain res.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

My guess for the dislike of SMN/RDM raise is strictly because the last thing a healer is really needed for is LB3 and being able to recover a situation. RDM and SMN feel like they're stepping on the healer role simply because the way things are these raises don't feel like they're supplementary, like they are helping. They feel like they are taking something away.

90% of the time a RDM VerRaises with dualcast I genuinely do did not need their help. I have SwiftCast up and I am beyond bored yet despite I have nothing to do... you "do my job for me" when you had no reason to.

See what I mean now? I don't have a problem with the raises much like I don't have a problem with tanks being able to heal themselves. It works out in other games. It just doesn't work out here. Not any more.

There's also another thing they 'took away from me' by dualcasting raise: the 8 seconds cast time. It feels GREAT to be rewarded of my knowledge over the mechanic/fight because then I know when I can stand still to raise. Instant raises have no such nuance.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if one day they gave us 2nd charge of swiftcast because apparently having to hardcast raise is somehow a bane to their existence.

[Aravell]

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if one day they gave us 2nd charge of swiftcast because apparently having to hardcast raise is somehow a bane to their existence.

Honestly, a 2nd charge of Swiftcast would probably improve the PF experience, most healers seem to be allergic to casting a spell that takes longer than 3 seconds. I've seen a fair share of parties wipe because both healers decide that it's more important to spam their fillers for 26 seconds and then wipe to the incoming body check rather than spend 8 out of those 26 entirely free seconds to raise the one dead person.

Regarding the caster raises though, the only offensive thing I find about it is when they choose to lose damage to raise when it's the first death in the fight and both healers still have Swiftcast up. Always let the healers raise first unless it's one/both healer(s) that died.

[Flay_wind]

Regarding the caster raises though, the only offensive thing I find about it is when they choose to lose damage to raise when it's the first death in the fight and both healers still have Swiftcast up. Always let the healers raise first unless it's one/both healer(s) that died.

It's kinda weird. I've met quite a few healers in the past that refused to raise, when i was on RDM, because somehow that's "my" job.
When a) it costs me a GCD, b) costs me mana gain and c) it's still a non trivial chunk of MP.

[Zeastria]

It's kinda weird. I've met quite a few healers in the past that refused to raise, when i was on RDM, because somehow that's "my" job.
When a) it costs me a GCD, b) costs me mana gain and c) it's still a non trivial chunk of MP.

Friend of mine had co-healer in savage prog(pf), who refuced to use global-heals/heal cds/ress because it was dps los...x.x
(Apparently some healers think that their "dps" matters more , than actual dps)

[Maltothoris]

Well we didn't get much. All we know is that blm are getting 2 stacks of leylines. Everything else we are getting with the full patch notes in the monday before hand.

Edit: One more thing, appartently, they are doing some changes to the mp of the healers.

[OliviaLugria]

Well we didn't get much. All we know is that blm are getting 2 stacks of leylines. Everything else we are getting with the full patch notes in the monday before hand.

Edit: One more thing, appartently, they are doing some changes to the mp of the healers.

Changes to mp? They're really listening to us now >.>