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    Player
    Aravell's Avatar
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    It is funny that the meme comp WHM/AST requires far more group coordination than the supposed really hard comp of SCH/SGE. All the coordination a SCH/SGE comp requires is for the 2 shield healers to agree that in the very unlikely event of them both needing to spam heals, it's better for the SGE to spam Prognosis without Eukrasia as SCH's ET has a cooldown.
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    ForsakenRoe's Avatar
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Zodiark
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    It is funny that the meme comp WHM/AST requires far more group coordination than the supposed really hard comp of SCH/SGE. All the coordination a SCH/SGE comp requires is for the 2 shield healers to agree that in the very unlikely event of them both needing to spam heals, it's better for the SGE to spam Prognosis without Eukrasia as SCH's ET has a cooldown.
    Even more hilarious, the shield potency of Adloquium is '180% of 300p', or 540p. The shield potency of Concitation is '180% of 200p', or 360p. 540p is 150% of 360p, making Deploy-Adlo '50% stronger than a Concitation'

    Eukrasian Prognosis II is '360% of 100p', which is (unsurprisingly) 360p. But, Zoe is a 50% boost to Eukrasian Prognosis, putting it up to a total of 540p of barrier

    So, Deploy-Adlo and Zoe-E.Prog are, potencywise, identical, which has the side effect of giving a SCH/SGE access to the power of Deploy-Adlo, twice per 90s instead of just once, which is a crazy amount of mitigative potential. Additionally, going beyond that, SCH and SGE arguably have more synergy with each other when it comes to mitigation, as the SCH could boost the SGE's E.Prog with Fey Illumination, and the SGE could return the favour by boosting the SCH's Adlo target with a Krasis! And even better, if the SGE's Kardia is handling the Tank's HP well enough, the Faerie would automatically decide 'oh this HP bar looks pretty full, I'll heal someone else' and start spreading the free Embrace healing out across the party

    Not to mention that you could have 100% uptime on 10% mit by just rotating between Soil and Kerachole over and over (which would result in a constant 100p regen too)
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    Laerune's Avatar
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I hope they reduce our healing skills, we have to many that are not used. Also tank sustain needs a major nerf.
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    Nero-Voidstails's Avatar
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    Nero Tsukimi
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    Zalera
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    I hope they reduce our healing skills, we have to many that are not used. Also tank sustain needs a major nerf.
    the healing kit is fine as it is tanks need a nerf like best tank to heal is darknight point
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    A decent DRK do not need much attention either & never has been since ShB. The +300 buff toward their abyssal cure potency was sort of the tipping point for me to never needing healers in dungeons atp even as a DRK.

    Nowadays if I do play healer & get a DRK, it’s a coin flip whether they need to be babysat or pretend they’re a WAR. Most of the time, they do not make a dent to our overbloated kits. Personally I don’t understand why are people still thinking DRK being the ‘squishy’ outside their noticeably lower HPS potential. It feels like a lot are deconditioned into thinking “Anything less than WAR = not OP”.
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    Daudream's Avatar
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    Rani Akki
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    Phantom
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    Conjurer Lv 23
    bumping this I guess, since I am still technically on "strike" and most likely will be for a good while longer...
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    Kacho_Nacho's Avatar
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    Kacho Nacho
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Daudream View Post
    bumping this I guess, since I am still technically on "strike" and most likely will be for a good while longer...
    Same. I'm playing DRK and MNK instead.
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    Kohashi's Avatar
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    Lucaon Soho
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    Odin
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    Same. I'm playing DRK and MNK instead.
    Good, cause most of the time I am waiting on tanks to join..
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    CalvinDescoles's Avatar
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    Razaan Archemaux
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    Moogle
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Cutting down your sub is the way to express it also
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    Rani Akki
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    Phantom
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    Conjurer Lv 23
    hah that is something I will consider only once the game has truly nothing left for me to enjoy, I might get upset about the state of healers (or just battle jobs in general) but there are still things outside of that I enjoy enough to stay subbed, for now at least.
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