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  1. #9411
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    IDontPetLalas's Avatar
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    Alinne Seamont
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    ...I honestly wouldn't put it past them to think about giving every healer a "pet" like Scholar, put most of their healing output into said pet, and gutted most of the healing spells/skills to give healers more DPS and buffing abilities.

    The question is though, if healing *did* become a largely automated process, and job interaction was about providing engaging damage and active support, would anyone find that acceptable?
    Well, let's phrase that another way. Let's say - what if tanks also got their own little pet that took care of all their own personal mitigation, so they wouldn't need to worry their heads about more than being a blue DPS and their damage buffs? Would tanks find that acceptable?
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  2. #9412
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    It’s hilarious we use SCH as an example of having a pet when SCH is far and away the most complex healer now, like it isn’t even particularly close anymore
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  3. #9413
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    ...I honestly wouldn't put it past them to think about giving every healer a "pet" like Scholar, put most of their healing output into said pet, and gutted most of the healing spells/skills to give healers more DPS and buffing abilities.

    The question is though, if healing *did* become a largely automated process, and job interaction was about providing engaging damage and active support, would anyone find that acceptable?
    not really. I liked the role because I was healing others... not doing it mainly through a "pet"

    at that point it isnt exactly a "healing" role anymore
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  4. #9414
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    ...I honestly wouldn't put it past them to think about giving every healer a "pet" like Scholar, put most of their healing output into said pet, and gutted most of the healing spells/skills to give healers more DPS and buffing abilities.

    The question is though, if healing *did* become a largely automated process, and job interaction was about providing engaging damage and active support, would anyone find that acceptable?
    Maybe... if they don't somehow decide that all four should be like that, which is probably something that SE would've cooked up.
    (1)

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  6. #9415
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    Ryaze O'on
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    Brynhildr
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    Well, let's phrase that another way. Let's say - what if tanks also got their own little pet that took care of all their own personal mitigation, so they wouldn't need to worry their heads about more than being a blue DPS and their damage buffs? Would tanks find that acceptable?
    Honestly that's not too far off with how things currently are. Tank mitigations are too strong. You have more than enough CDs and resources for bosses, even in Savage and Ultimate. I'm never feeling like I have to juggle what's going on. And traditional tank responsibilities like kiting bosses or repositioning mobs is next to minimal as so many bosses are constantly repositioning themselves or just sit static in the middle of the room for the entire fight. The only "tough" thing about tanking is that TBs often coincide with a 1m burst so remember to pop mitigations a couple of GCDs early so your 1m burst doesn't drift.
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  7. #9416
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    Kacho_Nacho's Avatar
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    Kacho Nacho
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Honestly, I don't see how they can make healing as a role any easier aside from automating the entire thing.
    That is what scares me.

    A situation where the senior developer is going to get the "brilliant" idea to automate healing. None of the junior developers will speak out against it because... well, Japan... and we end up with something a 3 year old could play.

    A future, where in 8.0, all a healer will need to do is move their character through the same boss fight mechanics they've faced in prior expansions while their heals go off automatically and the player gets to choose whether to press their sole single target damage spell or their sole Aoe damage spell once every 2.5 seconds.

    Please look forward to it...
    (3)
    Last edited by Kacho_Nacho; 10-14-2024 at 08:39 AM. Reason: grammar. I wroted reall gud. heh.

  8. #9417
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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    That is what scares me.

    A situation where the senior developer is going to get the "brilliant" idea to automate healing. None of the junior developers will speak out against it because... well, Japan... and we end up with something a 3 year old could play.

    A future, where in 8.0, all a healer will need to do is move their character through the same boss fight mechanics they've faced in prior expansions while their heals go off automatically and the player gets to choose whether to press their sole single target damage spell or their sole Aoe damage spell once every 2.5 seconds.

    Please look forward to it...
    Healing aura: your very presence soothes your allies, giving everyone in a 50y radius from yourself a 1200 potency regen. Lasts indefinitely or unless you toggle it off.
    (1)
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

  9. #9418
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    Alice Rivers
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Noooo! I would rather actually remove the healer role!

    Clarification: Automating healing is an absolute nightmare, hence I'd rather lose the role completely.
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    Last edited by Alice_Rivers; 10-14-2024 at 09:46 PM.

  10. #9419
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    ForsakenRoe's Avatar
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Healing aura: your very presence soothes your allies, giving everyone in a 50y radius from yourself a 1200 potency regen. Lasts indefinitely or unless you toggle it off.
    If there's the option to toggle it off, that introduces the potential for someone to 'play it wrong', which is quite hilarious, and also sad, that not only is it a possibility, in this game it'd be an inevitability
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  11. #9420
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    That is what scares me.

    A situation where the senior developer is going to get the "brilliant" idea to automate healing. None of the junior developers will speak out against it because... well, Japan... and we end up with something a 3 year old could play.

    A future, where in 8.0, all a healer will need to do is move their character through the same boss fight mechanics they've faced in prior expansions while their heals go off automatically and the player gets to choose whether to press their sole single target damage spell or their sole Aoe damage spell once every 2.5 seconds.

    Please look forward to it...
    we already have something a 3 year old could play
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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