#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Maltothoris]

Also, this isn't even factoring other comp factors like whm aquaveil and benesion or astro's exaltation, bole, spire and celestial intersection. Which is actually another point of contention is still to this day, the defensive assets can be skewed between classes.

[ForsakenRoe]

In the one buster that's shared in M3S for a WAR/PLD comp, the WAR starts melting on the 3rd hit while the PLD just barely gets tickled between Guardian and Bulwark, it's pretty ridiculous.

It's funny, some of us asked for SB design back and with M3S we got one aspect of it: Warrior being able to Invuln 3 out of the 5 Tankbusters in the fight (leaving one to be invulned by the other tank, and one to be shared)

Not exactly the aspect of SB design I was hoping for, but still funny to note

[Alahard]

In the one buster that's shared in M3S for a WAR/PLD comp, the WAR starts melting on the 3rd hit while the PLD just barely gets tickled between Guardian and Bulwark, it's pretty ridiculous.

In my group I just solo soak the entire M3S tankbuster on PLD. Our Drk is a glorified dps on M3S. We can run 5 dps if role targeting wasn't an issue.

[Maltothoris]

The sad thing too is that of all the fights, M3S is still the hardest hitting out of all of them. All the other fights have stupidly long sections where there is little to no heavy out going party damage going out.

[Kacho_Nacho]

It's funny, some of us asked for SB design back and with M3S we got one aspect of it: Warrior being able to Invuln 3 out of the 5 Tankbusters in the fight (leaving one to be invulned by the other tank, and one to be shared)

Not exactly the aspect of SB design I was hoping for, but still funny to note

Hopefully, it's not a case of Square's seeming inability to understand what their English-speaking customers want. We say, "we want healers to contribute to the party's success." and Square responds with "We hear your complaints that healing is too complex..."

[GartredZW]

Anyone else in a constant cycle of:
"I'm probably just being dramatic. Healers aren't that bad. I used to love healing."
*Joins an expert roulette or extreme trial*
*Broil, Broil, Broil, Broil, Broil, Broil, Broil, Broil, Broil, Broil, Broil, Biolysis*
"yep. it's that bad."
*2 weeks pass*
*repeat*

[Hyperia]

Hopefully, it's not a case of Square's seeming inability to understand what their English-speaking customers want. We say, "we want healers to contribute to the party's success." and Square responds with "We hear your complaints that healing is too complex..."

I firmly believe that SE is aware of the situation, and right now, they intend on making changes in 8.0, but how much they make will diminish the closer we get to 8.0 because its a political hand grenade that they dont want to be stuck holding.

[GartredZW]

I firmly believe that SE is aware of the situation, and right now, they intend on making changes in 8.0, but how much they make will diminish the closer we get to 8.0 because its a political hand grenade that they dont want to be stuck holding.

Well, They've got to listen at some point, I guess. people complained in Shadowbringers, and Square went "Don't worry, we listened. Have Energy Drain back. Fixed, right?"
Then when that didn't fix it, they said "The new healer in Endwalker is going to be more DPS focused. Sound great?" and Sage ended up being a Scholar side-grade with an extra damage button to hit once every 40 seconds.
Then when that did exactly what you would expect it did, Yoshida Antoinette decided to help us plebians with his godly wisdom of "Let them eat Ultimates". And when Healers were notably absent in Abyssos (likely because players of the shiny new sage job finally got bored), we got the ever-iconic "Please just play healer again."
And when Dawntrail's media tour happened, the first dungeon was beaten by a healerless group blind and not even trying to play perfectly, and now here we are. The green river running deep all the way from Valigarmanda to Eutrope.
Can't wait for another two+ years to finally enjoy my favorite MMO role again. Surely they won't just ignore it so they can hype us up before 8.0 releases by saying "we're going to be adding a new healer in 9.0 which will be a lot better, and will be building up the other healers to meet the new one. Please look forward to it."

[BabyYoda]

Guys I would like to share message from dev team: keep glaring broiling as much as you can till 8.0 (probably) with another animation for it

GLHF

[Aravell]

Hopefully, it's not a case of Square's seeming inability to understand what their English-speaking customers want. We say, "we want healers to contribute to the party's success." and Square responds with "We hear your complaints that healing is too complex..."

Honestly, I don't see how they can make healing as a role any easier aside from automating the entire thing.