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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurarok View Post
    Had to dig it up but it's probably worth reading through the topic made on the JP boards again (assuming the machine translations are decent enough)

    Some brush it off like we got on this thread too, but the discussions get pretty in depth and they hit a lot of the same notes we do, including job homogenization and fight design in general being an issue. Some mention they haven't even really thought about it until then and are inclined to agree with it.

    I think we tend to agree that the problems are real at least.
    There's probably a small clump of people on JP that dismiss everything and say "Well, I like not needing to heal so I can just relax in my roulettes", just like we have some over here on the EN forums too.

    But I think most people from any region do agree that what we have now isn't great at all and something needs to change.
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    Malto Thoris
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    Seems we all agree there is an issue but how to fix it is the main problem. Also, I just remember the question from a whilr ago asking for a whm rework.
    Q8: Will we have rework on WHM?
    Answer: On your question on WHM rework, it's hard to define what exactly rework is. While there will be adjustments, if you're asking about what will be changed, then we are considering a lot of changes including other jobs as well. While this will take a while, we plan to make it a reality one day
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey have some respect

    They also nerfed oracle in AOE
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey have some respect

    They also nerfed oracle in AOE
    Don't forget this subtle note hidden away in the Resolved Issues section
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majatok View Post
    I don't get it. The tooltip for both Heart of Corundum and Excogitation say that they will activate when the target "falls to 50% or below". How is it a "bug" that those abilities will heal a Gunbreaker after using Superbolide? Using that when your Hp is above 50% will leave you at 50%. According to the tooltips, that should trigger the heal. Am I misunderstanding something here?
    My guess is them cutting Bolide's hp reduction to 50% in the first place was that they wanted to prevent GNB from using Heart of Corundum on it and excog was caught in the crossfire, and they were lazy enough to not even update the description on either those skills on top of that (or just wanted to keep it as hidden as possible so they don't get flak for it).
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    Tatanpa Nononpa
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    So, healers' kits didn't change this patch. I don't think that's a surprise.

    But judging from the notes

    Due to the unique nature of future battle design, we anticipate situations in which close-ranged attacks may be difficult to execute, so we have generally increased the attack potency of melee DPS roles.
    …I can't help but feel that encounters aren't exactly being designed to make healer gameplay more exciting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu View Post
    …I can't help but feel that encounters aren't exactly being designed to make healer gameplay more exciting.
    Perhaps they're increasing healer excitement by making it so more melee DPS players drop dead due to greeding.
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    I am sick of healers going ignored by the devs. Why tf are they ripping apart BLM to do a rework NOBODY WANTS while healers are bordeline cosmetic in most content?
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviatorhead View Post
    I am sick of healers going ignored by the devs. Why tf are they ripping apart BLM to do a rework NOBODY WANTS while healers are bordeline cosmetic in most content?
    I think it's probably time to start eating up GMs time and patience in-game by starting to file reports and suggestions over the bad design of healers.
    I imagine if they got a few hundred reports regarding Glare/Broil/Malefic/Dosis on the daily for months, the message might finally be moved along.
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