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  1. #9391
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    Hyperia's Avatar
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    I agree with you, however, I think you are mixing up "tightly tuned end game" with "incompetent role designing in a vacuum". basically the roles seem to have been designed with zero communication with other role design teams. "oh hey, lets give War an AOE regen heal.. any complaints from my cubicle? no? good.. done..."
    Good point, I agree that if all of these job changes were discussed in a meeting, most of the issues we face could have been addressed.

    That is, as long as the Japanese tradition of junior devs always agreeing with senior devs doesn’t happen.

    Besides financial and political issues, Japan has cultural issues at play as well.
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  2. #9392
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaze View Post
    As a tank main for most of EW and likely all of DT, other than Ults (which I haven't tanked yet). It doesn't even seem like this is the case. The lvl 94 traits for tanks 2m CDs are just straight up busted OP, PLD in particular. Even at the start of the tier with just crafted gear, I could kitchen sink TBs and take next to zero damage, and then have every single CD up before the next TB. The only thing that has been even remotely dangerous this tier is the latter Knuckle Sandwiches in M3S. Boss autos seem to be a bit higher this expansion, but as long as I don't completely zone out and remember to toss the occasional Intervention at my MT, the healers don't even have to heal the MT for most of the fights this tier.

    Tanks OPness doesn't seem to be an side effect of how "tightly tuned" endgame is but rather simply a design decision to make tank roles and other roles having a bigger place in supporting healers and mitigation. Because the fights this tier don't feel "tightly tuned", I feel OP as fuck as a tank. Which yea, completely kills healers IMO. If healers don't need to heal anymore, they gotta give players more to do than 1 button spam.
    I thought BW was bad but honestly guardian is worse for balance in anything above dungeons because it’s straight up basically a second invuln

    Even savage TB’s can barely do anything to guardian. What the hell were they thinking
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  3. #9393
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    Hyperia's Avatar
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I thought BW was bad but honestly guardian is worse for balance in anything above dungeons because it’s straight up basically a second invuln

    Even savage TB’s can barely do anything to guardian. What the hell were they thinking
    It’s starting to look like more and more of their development is being done in silos that rarely interact with each other. I will also speculate that the QA department is either on life support or outright gone except for checking for game crashes.
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  4. #9394
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    LynxDubh's Avatar
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    Lynx Dubh
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    It’s starting to look like more and more of their development is being done in silos that rarely interact with each other. I will also speculate that the QA department is either on life support or outright gone except for checking for game crashes.
    I was gonna be snarky and say QA has gone towards glam or something. But that would be disingenuous to say given some of the hroth gear texture issues.
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  5. #9395
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    Tigore Collson
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    Ultros
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Yeah. The level 92 tank trait upgrades are really loaded. Not only do they get an upgrade from 30 to 40% damage reduction, they also get an additional effect that is arguably as good as the 40% reduction stacked with it. 300 potency regen over 15s for WAR. 1000 potency barrier for PLD. 1200 potency Excog for DRK. Max HP up and heal by 20% for GNB. The other lvl 94 trait Enhanced Rampart also increases healing from healing actions by 15%.

    With all of this in mind, it's definitely why we are discussing about increasing encounter damage as well. If we don't, we would have to drop mega nerf hammers on all except the DRKs to get the healers healing again. DRKs would probably just get a slap on the wrist compared to the other 3 since their 1200 pot Excog effect is still pretty strong >.> The increased encounter damage would also allow some of the solo content to remain easy for lower risk hunt marks and FATE runs too. We will still kind of run into the "Glare spam" problem once everyone gets geared, so we can't forget about making the filler DPS more engaging for those times.
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  6. #9396
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    Callisto E'elyaa
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    Fisher Lv 100
    I came back for my house ; not sure it's worth it.
    No news about healers, but hey, a new pink donut earing ; maybe it's a metaphor for "we're listening to A.holes"
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  7. #9397
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    Erzaa Skarlett
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calysto View Post
    I came back for my house ; not sure it's worth it.
    No news about healers, but hey, a new pink donut earing ; maybe it's a metaphor for "we're listening to A.holes"
    Maybe it's a metaphor for the devs being fried and SE only interested in the dough?
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  8. #9398
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    Medim Azurarok
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I thought BW was bad but honestly guardian is worse for balance in anything above dungeons because it’s straight up basically a second invuln

    Even savage TB’s can barely do anything to guardian. What the hell were they thinking
    My tank IL's not particularly high and I've only been OT in M1S and M2S so far, but I've been using Rampart + Bulwark + Sheltron against TBs just kinda out of habit. I guess I should be using Guardian + Sheltron (or maybe even just Guardian?)

    That said, nothing in normal content or extremes hit hard enough to make me really think much about what mit I'm using as long as they're actually being used. Mitigation's everyone's responsibility now but it just makes things harder on the healer when someone slips up. And yet the blame still tends to end up on them anyways so I'm not surprised it doesn't seem like it's done much for the healer population
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  9. #9399
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    Tigore Collson
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    White Mage Lv 100
    It still sounds like you are using your cooldowns decently, Azurarok. The Guardian + Holy Sheltron would probably just be an alternate combo to use for the next TB / Wall to Wall pull... If it happens often enough within a minute. If you are taunt swapping to only take a TB once every 2 ish minutes, it probably wouldn't hurt to try the Guardian combo first. Since it should be your best mitigation combo now.
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  10. #9400
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I thought BW was bad but honestly guardian is worse for balance in anything above dungeons because it’s straight up basically a second invuln

    Even savage TB’s can barely do anything to guardian. What the hell were they thinking
    In the one buster that's shared in M3S for a WAR/PLD comp, the WAR starts melting on the 3rd hit while the PLD just barely gets tickled between Guardian and Bulwark, it's pretty ridiculous.
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